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    ACWORTH, Ga. — Three boys ages 8 and 9 are under arrest for allegedly raping an 11-year-old girl in the woods near an apartment complex, police say.

    The girl's mother reported the alleged rape Sunday, leading authorities to charge the boys with rape, kidnapping and false imprisonment charges.

    The victim alleges that she was playing with the boys in the yard when they took her into the woods against her will and one of the boys raped her, said Acworth police Capt. Wayne Dennard.

    "The juvenile victim stated that an 8-year-old boy and two 9-year-old boys that she had been playing with earlier pulled her into a wooded area, where one of the boys raped her," Dennard said.

    The boys' names were being withheld because of their age.

    Prosecutors have not decided whether to try the suspects as adults.

    "That decision hasn't been made," said Kathy Watkins, a spokeswoman for the Cobb County District Attorney's office. She had no further comment.

    Calls to the Acworth Police Department were not returned Monday morning.

    Acworth is 30 miles northwest of Atlanta in the city's fast-growing outer suburbs.
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    This is all kinds of messed up!

    If they did it, then they absolutely deserved to be punished. But how do you try a 9 year old as an adult? How is that even on the table? Obviously they have more coming than a timeout or being grounded, but being tried as an adult?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KleeHee View Post
    If they did it, then they absolutely deserved to be punished. But how do you try a 9 year old as an adult? How is that even on the table? Obviously they have more coming than a timeout or being grounded, but being tried as an adult?
    Why not? A young girl was taken against her will by three attackers and violated. She will be traumatised for the rest of her life and most likely will need counseling for years.
    What difference does it make how old the rapist is? What should happen, should they be set free with a warning or do some community service, given freedom to further damage the lives of other children or women, and once they meet a more acceptable age only then can suitable punishment be doled out?

    The age of the defendants is shocking. Yet the situation needs to be handled in an adult manner. This isn't toilet papering a neighbor's house on Halloween. This is a case of vandalism at it's most despicable, and should be treated as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    The age of the defendants is shocking.
    TEN-YEAR OLD ACCUSED OF TRYING TO POISON TEACHER...

    Officials said a 10-year-old student walked to the teacher's desk and poured a cleaning liquid into her coffee cup.

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    The sad part is when will we figure out where these kids are learning this stuff from. When I was 9, I had no idea what sex was, let alone how to use it as an act of violence. And to try and poison someone with cleaning liquid? Some days I'm glad I have no more than 50-60 years left...

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    I've got a 15 month old daughter and sometimes it scares me to death to think what the world might be like in 10-15 years for her. I can just continue to do my job as a parent and teach her right from wrong.

    Sometimes I wonder if any of this stuff went on when we were kids and we just didn't hear about it because there was no massive media coverage like there is today. No internet, no syndicated radio talk shows, no CNN, no FOX News, etc. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    What difference does it make how old the rapist is?
    Then why is there ever even a consideration as to whether one is tried as a juvenile or as an adult? Yes, this was an adult crime. Sex is an adult subject. They did something to another child. Does a 9 year old really even understand what it is they've done? The lasting ramifications of what they've done? No way! They probably think it's about the same as an indian burn or a spit wad. Not because they're calloused criminals, but because they're simply not old enough to grasp what it is they've done. Essentially, they're mentally incompetent. It's something they'll naturally grow out of.

    What should happen, should they be set free with a warning or do some community service, given freedom to further damage the lives of other children or women, and once they meet a more acceptable age only then can suitable punishment be doled out
    The age of the defendants is shocking. Yet the situation needs to be handled in an adult manner. This isn't toilet papering a neighbor's house on Halloween. This is a case of vandalism at it's most despicable, and should be treated as such.
    As I indicated in my post above (apparently I didn't indicate strongly enough), these boys have more than a slap on the wrist coming to them. Juvenile detention is a start. Definitely loads of counseling. Community service as well? How about in a rape crisis center?

    I understand wanting a pound of flesh in your justice. But the punishment needs to bring about reform in the guilty. These boys have brought a boat load of education upon themselves. One day, they'll better comprehend what they did and, hopefully, feel real shame and regret. Until they're capable of comprehending what they've done, how can you treat them as someone who does?
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    They must at least understand what they did was wrong. They dragged her into the woods afterall. If they didn't think it was that wrong they would have done it out in the open. Did they try and hide it after they did it? You bet. So I think we can at least come to the conclusion what they did was wrong.

    If they aren't able to comprehend their punishment, then counseling won't be effective either. In cases like this, you have to ask whether the justice system is there for making sure the offender never offends again or whether the victim is given the slightest satisfaction in seeing justice served, or both.

    The other question is what type of behavior preceded this. I seriously doubt they went from student of the week and weekly bible school attendees to rapists. If there is a history of behavior leading up to this, people are going to have less of a problem giving them 30 years in jail.

    All violent criminals do not fully understand the ramifications of their deeds. If they did, they wouldn't do them. What the age of the person is means less than the thought process behind the act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KleeHee View Post
    Then why is there ever even a consideration as to whether one is tried as a juvenile or as an adult? Yes, this was an adult crime. Sex is an adult subject. They did something to another child. Does a 9 year old really even understand what it is they've done? The lasting ramifications of what they've done? No way! They probably think it's about the same as an indian burn or a spit wad. Not because they're calloused criminals, but because they're simply not old enough to grasp what it is they've done. Essentially, they're mentally incompetent. It's something they'll naturally grow out of.
    "Something they'll grow out of"? Look I understand the need to be all touchy-feely about the welfare of these kids, yet let's not pretend they are mere innocents that didn't know what they were doing. Where did they get the idea to commit this act in the first place? By the way, it has been noted that folk that abuse animals as children grow up to be rather unsavory individuals. If that is the case, do you honestly expect them to grow out of and adjust to kidnapping and raping a peer?

    But the punishment needs to bring about reform in the guilty.
    Where and when in this country has someone guilty of a deplorable sex crime involving a child ever been proven to be "reformed"? Even so, reform is the last thing jail is about. It is a way to warehouse the undesirables in society, nothing more.

    One day, they'll better comprehend what they did and, hopefully, feel real shame and regret. Until they're capable of comprehending what they've done, how can you treat them as someone who does?
    Quite simply: Ask the girl's parents, or the victimised child herself how they feel about punishment befitting of the crime. You can not seriously be asking me to feel sympathy for these little dirtbags, are you? They were capable of a monstrous act, apparently without conscience, yet you are hoping that one fine and sunny day they'll recognize the weight of their actions?

    There is a time for progressive means toward education. There are also times when you simply slap the living shit out of someone because they deserve it. I'm not sorry that I do not buy into the idea that they are merely youngsters who made a mistake. One reads about the acceleration of crimes "by the young against the young" on a daily basis. It is time to make a stand for decency. The rights of the victim to go through life unmolested far outweigh some naively perceived expectation of rehabilitation for her attackers.
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    The one question I have with stories like this: Where are the fucking parents and what are they teaching their kids (or not teaching them as the case may be)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by looper_guy View Post
    what are they teaching their kids
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    I think we all tend to view cases like this through our own distorted view of reality. Each of us can relate to being 9 years old and now realize that we didn't always understand the ramifications of our actions. The problem is, we would have never thought to commit such a crime under the same mindset. The point is, if you are aware enough to purposely commit such an act, you must have some appreciation of the impact of it. One comes with the other in cases like this. At some point, punitive jail time on behalf of the victim is warranted.
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    Wow.

    Children act upon what they're surrounded by and what they see. What kind of adult supervision do these kids have? None apparently. What are these kids being exposed to???? A lot apparently.

    This is just sickening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithjc View Post
    Wow.

    Children act upon what they're surrounded by and what they see. What kind of adult supervision do these kids have? None apparently. What are these kids being exposed to???? A lot apparently.

    This is just sickening.
    Exactly! I bet the parents/guardians are scumbags. They should not have kids that are 8 and 9 that even know how to do what they did. Fricken disgusting!

 

 

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