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    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- MTV is hoping hip-hop and reality television tailored and sanitized for a more conservative Middle East will draw young Arabs away from dozens of locally produced music video channels that already dominate the market.


    MTV, which a site in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, has launched MTV Arabia.

    MTV Arabia, which launched over the weekend, will feature 60 percent international music and 40 percent Arabic music, along with local adaptations of the channel's popular non-music shows.

    But MTV, which is known for airing provocative videos featuring scantily clad women, says the Arab version of the pop-culture channel will show less bare skin and profanity.

    "When we come to people's homes, we want to earn their respect," said Abdullatif al-Sayegh, chief executive of Arab Media Group, which along with Viacom Inc.'s MTV Networks International owns MTV Arabia. He explained that there will be "culturally sensitive editors going through content of the programming."

    The station launched at midnight Saturday, airing a pre-taped show featuring Grammy award-winning rapper and actor Ludacris, Senegalese-born soul superstar Akon, Lebanese rapper Karl Wolf and the Emirates underground hip-hop band Desert Heat. Watch why this launch is considered a challenge »

    By emphasizing local music talent and programs addressing the concerns of Arab youth, MTV Arabia hopes to set itself apart from the other satellite music channels that saturate the Mideast market.

    "We are not only a music channel, we are an entertainment channel where young Arabs will get a voice," program director Patrick Samaha told The Associated Press.

    Unlike its past forays into Europe and India, MTV is not entering a virgin music video territory. Over the past few years, there has been an explosion of satellite channels in the region that feature soulful male crooners from the Gulf and female singers from Lebanon and Syria.

    MTV officials say this is why their channel is focusing on hip-hop and R&B, two music genres that are underserved despite being popular throughout the region.

    But to please a more conservative audience, MTV Arabia will tailor some of its programming and keep provocative hip-hop videos featuring barely dressed women and alcohol to a minimum.

    "We hope to provide a platform for Arab youth to break boundaries without disrespecting their tradition and culture," said Bhavneet Singh, managing director of the Emerging Markets Group, part of MTV Networks International.

    MTV Arabia's flagship tailor-made show "Hip HopNa," which means "Our Hip Hop" in English, features Saudi Arabian rapper Qusai Khidr, who will audition the best local hip-hop acts in seven different Middle Eastern cities.

    The winner from each city will have the chance to record a track for a compilation CD produced by Fred Wreck, a producer who has worked with rap stars like 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg.

    MTV expects "Hip HopNa" to be picked up by its other channels in the coming year.

    MTV Arabia also will broadcast an Arabic version of the popular car makeover show "Pimp My Ride," as well as "Al Helm" ("The Dream"). The latter is based on the show "Made," in which MTV transforms awkward teenagers into the successful models or rap stars of their dreams.

    Shows in Arabic will be subtitled in English for foreign viewers in the region, channel officials said.

    "We have a possibility to copy, paste and cut programs," al-Sayegh said. "What we are saying to young people is it's OK to have fun, it's OK to be naughty as long as you don't lose yourself."
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    MTV lost all it's relevance years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoHalen View Post
    MTV lost all it's relevance years ago.
    You said it.

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    As much as I hate MTV, this is the type of stuff that will end the war on terror and extremism. Once the world becomes one culture (or at least better understands each other) we have less reason to hate each other. Give them MTV and McDonalds and see if they still hate us with a passion.

    They'll be stupid and fat just like us in a matter of no time
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    As much as I hate MTV, this is the type of stuff that will end the war on terror and extremism. Once the world becomes one culture (or at least better understands each other) we have less reason to hate each other. Give them MTV and McDonalds and see if they still hate us with a passion.

    They'll be stupid and fat just like us in a matter of no time
    Less reason to hate each other? From my very humble experience it is the human condition to FIND reasons to hate each other, big or small, it doesn't matter. eg. Sam vs Dave.

    None of this is about culture or sensitvity or anything so noble.

    Just about the $£ etc.

    Good luck to them. Who gives a flying fuck anyway?

    (You're right on the stupid and fat though. Look at western man.......aren't we exactly like we imagine ourselves to be?)
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    The headquarters being in Dubai makes sense as they are the more liberal of the Arab nations. However, something tells me that building is now on Osama's "to do list" of things to blow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    Don't forget: "Pimp my IED" and "Jihaded!," where unknowing participants are blown up and then OBL runs into the frame and shouts: "You've been Jihaded!"

    hilarious post...you too chef
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    oops,more stereotypical idiocy.

    I can imagine an arab chat along the lines of ..............well you get my point I hope.

    I have so many friends from the middle east and not one of them that i have met would condone the stoning of someone, the killing of civilians or anything along those lines.

    Bottom line...........

    We live in the countries we do and mostly our "leaders" dictate to us what we should do. Most of the time we might disagree but all we can do is vote (joke) or move.

    Most of us just accept what happens as being part of life. Is it acceptable to fry someone in a chair? Hang someone by their neck? Throw stones at someone until they are dead?

    In my book, no, no. It happens. I fucking hate this world most of the time but I will not reduce myself to falling for hate journalism/opinion that ignores what is going on in it's front yard.

    People are bad most of the time. FACT.

    Find some good ones, from wherever you might, regardless of nationality, ethnicity, religion etc and nurture that friendship and/or love.

    Then try to live a good life...........without making idiotic decisions about entire peoples.

    ps. for the misinformed, it might surprise a few to know that the majority of muslims are embarassed and disgusted with the posturing of al quaeda. They represent themselves only, not the people they claim to represent.

    fuck it. Just a rock band forum anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post
    oops,more stereotypical idiocy...
    fuck it. Just a rock band forum anyway...
    "Oh, lighten up, Francis..."

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    ps. for the misinformed, it might surprise a few to know that the majority of muslims are embarassed and disgusted with the posturing of al quaeda. They represent themselves only, not the people they claim to represent.


    peace all who want it.
    I have 3 friends who are Muslim immigrants to the U.S. 2 are from Pakistan, 1 from Iran. To support your point, they are not extremist and do not subscribe to that agenda at all.

    However, in a conversation with one of my Pakistani friends about politics vs. religion, he brought up a fact that creates a significant issue and is at the crux of the Islamic extremist agenda and the reason why he came to the U.S.. The fundamental tenents of Islam include having Islamic (Sharia) law as a means of governance. Sharia law does have different interpretations but it does leave it self open for extreme interpretation, as is the case in many parts of the Muslim world.

    Yes, Western culture has its bouts of having religion (Christianity) dictate policy with sometimes devastating results. But Christ never encouraged that his teachings be used as governance on a worldly basis ("Give to Caesar what is Caesar's..."; "My Kingdom is not of this world...") whereas the Koran, which is authored by the Prophet Mohammed, does encourage such worldly governance. Additionally, Western civilization had an "enlightenment" era which begat the break from the Catholic church, the Renaissance and created a clear division between governmental rule and religious rule. The Muslim world has not. Thus, you have situations that, to Western eyes, look barbaric and in defiance of basic human rights (honor killings, punishing women for BEING raped, public be-headings) and are not understandable. Hence, the "stereo type idiocy" as you put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    As much as I hate MTV, this is the type of stuff that will end the war on terror and extremism. Once the world becomes one culture (or at least better understands each other) we have less reason to hate each other. Give them MTV and McDonalds and see if they still hate us with a passion.

    They'll be stupid and fat just like us in a matter of no time
    Give them strippers and porn, that will end the wars.
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    Hmmm....maybe.

    Send them to me and I'll try it out
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