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    An Italian judge believes that a young Seattle woman instigated a vicious 'extreme sex' killing. Her student friends say she is just a dorky sweetheart. Deconstructing the grim tale of Amanda Knox.
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    Italians are calling it casa degli orrori: house of horrors. It seems an unlikely name for the little villa at 7 Via della Pergola, here in the medieval city of Perugia. Part of a 17th-century palazzo, the house shares the neighborhood's air of decadent opulence, with a terrace overlooking the red and gold foliage of a lush Umbrian valley and glimpses of a medieval wall from its green shuttered windows. But it was in this now notorious residence—currently surrounded by red and white police tape—that Meredith Kercher, a 21-year-old British student, died an agonizing death in what investigators say was a gruesome sex crime.

    Three people have been arrested in connection with the killing: Kercher's 20-year-old American roommate, Amanda Knox; Knox's 24-year-old Italian boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito; and 38-year-old Congolese bar owner and musician Diya Lumumba, known locally as Patrick. Authorities are searching for a fourth person who may have been in the apartment, possibly a man seen on a closed-circuit TV tape nearby on the night of the killing, or a woman—there was a high-heel shoeprint left on the scene that does not match the victim or Knox.

    The case has riveted Europe, tapping into prurient curiosity as more sordid details leak out from judicial documents as well as partisan political divisions in a nation divided over immigration. A 19-page report, released by investigating judge Claudia Matteini, tells a squalid tale of dangerous sex games and a disturbing tale about Knox, the blond, blue-eyed student from Seattle who adopted the online name "Foxy Knoxy." According to Matteini, "something went wrong" after the three suspects tried to get Kercher to submit to violent group sex. The judicial officer, saying that Kercher was tortured and repeatedly sexually assaulted, speculates that Knox held Kercher down while Sollecito, Lumumba and the mystery fourth suspect assaulted her. Forensic evidence shows that Kercher's neck was lightly scratched twice with a knife before a third and fatal swipe slit her throat. The coroner's office believes that she was conscious during the two painful hours it took her to die, but that her injuries made it impossible for her to call for help. Matteini surmises that the suspects wanted "to try a new sensation" when they initiated the sex. "And in the face of the victim's refusals they did not have the presence of mind to desist, but tried to force the will of the girl, using a knife that Sollecito always carried with him," she writes.

    As the British and Italian media went into frenzies over the saga, they gleefully singled out Knox as the real villain in the tale. The judge wrote that she believes Knox instigated the sexual attack; one British tabloid called her a "maneater with mommy issues." Other papers published numerous Facebook and MySpace pictures posted by Knox—and mentioned in the judge's papers—showing the student with drug paraphernalia and pointing what appears to be a machine gun at the camera. Knox, who was studying creative writing and Italian, also apparently published on her MySpace page, now shut down, a turgid story she wrote about rape. At one point Kyle, the rapist in the story, tells his brother Edgar, "A thing you have to know about chicks is that they don't know what they want." The story continues, "Kyle winked his eye. 'You have to show it to them. Trust me. In any case,' [sic] He cocked his eyebrows up and one side of his mouth rose into a grin. 'I think we both know hard A is hardly a drug'."

    In Seattle a more complex picture of Knox has emerged. Local court records show she was fined last summer for a "residential disturbance" during a party at her house; the Seattle Post-Intelligencer said she had to pay a $269 penalty. However, Knox's friends at the University of Washington say the junior was not the party girl portrayed in the media. She grew up on the working-class outskirts of Seattle with her mother, math tutor Edda Mellas, after her parents divorced when she was two. The young woman attended Seattle Prep, a Jesuit school that is one of the city's fancier private institutions, and worked part-time while studying at the university. The invitations to the party that led to the fine included typical college talk of kegs and live bands, but also a line that seems to suggest a civic-minded student: "Because we are moving out, there will be few/no furniture in the house so bring a sleeping bag because no one is drinking and driving here." Jeff Tripoli, a junior who says he was in Knox's social circle, described her as "a sweetheart" and "friendly." According to Tripoli, Knox's boyfriend—whom she broke up with during her sophomore year—used to hold "nerdy tea parties" in his dorm room. Her quaintly eccentric crowd, says Tripoli, was "dorky in a good way." "She didn't dress provocatively," he recalls. "She didn't work it. She dressed casually, and she was friendly and easygoing and studious."

    In Perugia, the judge's report records a pattern of inconsistent statements by Knox and Sollecito, who had been dating less than a month. (Sollecito's Facebook page included a photo of himself wrapped in bandages and brandishing a meat cleaver; his Oct. 19 blog post expressed a desire for "extreme sex" to break up the monotony of a regular relationship. According to supporting documents attached to Matteini's report, the couple called the police on the morning of Nov. 2, when, they say, they discovered the door to the villa at 7 Via della Pergola open. Police broke down the locked door to Kercher's room and found her body in a pool of blood, with blood also spattered high on the walls. A photo of the crime scene printed in Italian newspapers shows Kercher's foot sticking out from under her bloodied duvet.

    Investigators report finding 120 fingerprints, among them some said to be Knox's, on Kercher's pillow, along with three bloody Nike sneaker footprints on the floor, an exact match in size and style, they say, to Sollecito's shoes. Knox and Sollecito have denied being anywhere near the house that night, insisting they spent the evening at Sollecito's nearby apartment. In Knox's own room, according to her arrest warrant published in the Italian press, not a single fingerprint was found—not even her own—suggesting that someone may have scrubbed it down to hide any evidence. In the latest development, Italian press reports on Thursday say police found that the knife taken from Knox's boyfriend's house has Knox's DNA near the handle and Kercher's on the blade.

    According to the Italian authorities, Knox initially denied being at home the evening of the murder. A day later, investigators say, she confessed that she was at home and that her roommate's screams were so loud she had to "cover her ears." In her second statement she named Lumumba, who owns the Le Chic nightclub, where Knox is a waitress, as the perpetrator. Knox said Lumumba had a crush on Kercher and had been invited to their apartment "for sex" that night. In a third version of events, say the authorities, Knox then claimed she had been under the influence of drugs on the night of the murder and indeed had been at her boyfriend's apartment nearby until the next morning.

    But it is not just Knox's inconsistencies and fingerprints that Italian authorities are using to build the case against her. The judge's report includes cell phone records indicating that Knox sent a message to Lumumba earlier that evening, telling him her roommate was home and "see you later." Closed-circuit TV footage from a nearby parking garage shown on RAI television clearly shows the 20-year-old American entering the apartment the night of the murder. Investigators have also released information that electronic tagging of the SIM cards in the cell phones of all three suspects placed them in the area of Via Pergola during the evening hours of Nov. 1. Finger marks found on Kercher's body are compatible with Knox's hand, according to Knox's arrest warrant. And, along with a matching footprint, an 8.5cm switchblade knife seized from Sollecito's apartment days after the murder has been identified as consistent with the murder weapon based on the incisions on Kercher's neck. Sollecito has since distanced himself from his American girlfriend. In a behind-bars interview with the Roman daily La Repubblica on Tuesday, Sollecito wrote, through his attorneys Marco Brusco and Luca Mauri, "I never want to see Amanda again. Above all, it is her fault we are here."

    Kercher, who watched the movie "The Notebook" with a friend across town on her last night alive, is believed by the investigating judge to have returned home at 9:30 to find Knox, Sollecito and Lumumba waiting. "Initially the American gave a version of events we knew was not correct," Perugia police chief Arturo de Felice told reporters. "She buckled and made an admission of facts we knew were correct and from that we were able to bring them all in. They all participated but had different roles." Under Italian law, the judge's report contains enough incriminating details to hold the suspects for up to a year without charge. But given the mound of evidence presented so far, the case could go to court quickly once charges are filed.

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    Meanwhile, the allegations against Lumumba, a legal immigrant, have tapped into a larger Italian debate over multiculturalism. Police statistics saying that nearly two-thirds of violent crimes in Italy are carried out by immigrants have triggered a wave of resentment against the new residents; Kercher's murder has done little to cool these passions. In Perugia this has given rise to bitter divisions over the alleged involvement of Lumumba, who has denied being at the students' house that night and offered a receipt printed from the till of his bar at 10:29 p.m. as proof that he was elsewhere. Of the 120 fingerprints lifted from Kercher's bedroom, none has been identified as Lumumba's. Still, there is evidence that Lumumba sent a text message to Knox telling her not to come to work, because he was not opening the bar that night. Investigators also say that his cell phone SIM card was detected in the area around Kercher's house that evening; the next day, the judge says, he changed phones.

    It's still unclear when the case will go to trial. What is certain is that life in sleepy Perugia, which for decades has welcomed exchange students at the University for Foreigners, will take a while to revert to its pre-house-of-horrors tranquility. "This is not the sort of sensational event that happens here," says Alessia Ceccarelli, who operates a newsstand just steps away from the villa at 7 Via della Pergola and recalls Knox and Sollecito buying a Corriere dell' Umbria newspaper from her the day Kercher's body was found. "We are provincial. That's why it is so shocking."

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    Damn ya'll... make love, not....that.
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    i swear this shit is just disgusting from a human standpoint, i mean what makes people do this shit, is it really the devil
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Damn ya'll... make love, not....that.
    I've never understood the whole sexual violence thing...

    I don't know how anyone could get turned on by shit like that. Just disgusting. People being fucking scum because they can, or at least think they can...
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    That is really messed up......
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    PERUGIA, Italy — A jury in Italy convicted American college student Amanda Knox of murdering her British roommate and sentenced her to 26 years in prison shortly after midnight Saturday.



    Her Italian ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito was also convicted and sentenced to 25 years.

    As soon as the judge read the verdict after some 13 hours of deliberations, Knox began weeping and murmured, "No, no," then hugged one of her lawyers.

    Minutes later, the 22-year-old Knox, who is from Seattle and the 25-year-old Sollecito, were put in police vans with sirens blaring and driven back to jail.

    Prosecutors had sought life imprisonment, Italy's stiffest sentence. Courts often give less severe punishment than what prosecutors demand.



    The American's father, Curt Knox, asked if he would fight on for his daughter, replied, with tears in his eyes: "Hell, yes."

    "This is just wrong," her stepmother, Cassandra Knox, said, turning around immediately after hearing the verdict. Her family had insisted she was innocent and a victim of character assassination.

    Knox and Sollecito were charged with murder and sexual assault in the slaying of Meredith Kercher more than two years ago. All three were studying in Perugia in Italy's central Umbria region at the time.

    Kercher's body was found in a pool of blood with her throat slit on Nov. 2, 2007, in the bedroom of the house she shared with Knox. Prosecutors contended the 21-year-old Leeds University student was murdered the previous night.



    Knox, who is from Seattle, and Sollecito, had been jailed since shortly after the slaying.

    The prosecutors contend on the night of the murder, Knox and Sollecito met at the apartment where Kercher and Knox lived. They say a fourth person was there, Rudy Hermann Guede, an Ivory Coast citizen who has been convicted in the murder and sentenced to 30 years in prison. Guede, who is appealing his conviction, says he was in the house the night of the murder but did not kill Kercher.

    The prosecution says Knox and Kercher started arguing, and that Knox joined the two men in brutally attacking and sexually assaulting the Briton under "the fumes of drugs and possibly alcohol."

    Throughout the trial, prosecutors depicted Knox as a promiscuous and manipulative she-devil whose personality clashed with her roommate's. They say Knox had grown to hate Kercher.

    During the trial, the most intimate details of Knox's life were examined, from her lax hygiene — allegedly a point of contention with Kercher — to her sex life, even including a sex toy.

    Knox said Kercher was a friend whose slaying shocked and saddened her.

    Defense lawyers have described the American, who made the dean's list at the University of Washington, as a smart and cheerful woman, at one point even comparing her to film character Amelie, the innocent and dreamy girl in the 2001 French movie of the same title.

    That is the film Knox and Sollecito say they were watching at his home on the night of the murder, where they say they smoked marijuana and had sex. Knox said she went home the next morning to find the door to the house open and Kercher dead.

    The prosecution maintains that a 6 1/2-inch knife authorities found at Sollecito's house could be the murder weapon; they say Kercher's DNA was found on the blade and Knox's on the handle. However, defense lawyers argue the knife was too big to match Kercher's wounds and the amount of DNA collected was too small to determine with certainty whose it was.

    The defense maintained there was not enough evidence for a conviction and no clear motive.

    However, prosecutor Manuela Comodi said violent crimes can lack a motive. "We live at a time where violence is purposeless," she told the jury.

    Knox gave contradictory versions of the night of the slaying, saying at one point she was home and had to cover her ears to block out Kercher's screams and accusing a Congolese man of the killing. The man, Patrick Diya Lumumba, owns a pub in Perugia where Knox worked. He was jailed briefly but was later cleared and is seeking defamation damages from Knox.

    Knox later contended that police pressure led her to initially accuse an innocent man.
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    I think, imo, that Amanda did it.

    Yes, even little girls, sugar and spice.... can accomplish Cold-Blooded MURDER in tandem with others.....

    I remember well the case of US Naval Academy Cadet Diane Zamora, and her boyfriend, murdering Adrianne Jones in 1995.

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    Life in an Italian prison for convicted murderer Amanda Knox has good days and bad days. One of the very worst, her father said today, was the day she cried in his arms for 45 minutes.

    Edda Mellas says the family will fight to get its daughter out of prison.For Knox's father, Curt Knox, the memory of his daughter's despair was so painful that he walked away from Oprah Winfrey's cameras because his own emotions overwhelmed him.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AmandaK...ory?id=9920832

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    Amanda Knox has won a prison essay-writing competition in which she imagined a young woman was injured during a drugs-fuelled sex party.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...sex-party.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post

    cold-blooded killer or not, she's way cute.

    I read about this case a while back. I don't see why she couldn't have done it. It's not like girls don't ever kill people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    cold-blooded killer or not, she's way cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    cold-blooded killer or not, she's way cute.
    Is there anyone you don't find cute or stunningly beautiful?

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    I think she is cute too.

    Just because she is a murderer doesn't change the fact of it.

    From what I read, this is a case of I think she did it, but did they really prove beyond a reasonable doubt she did it?

    I have to wonder that if she wasn't an American if she would be convicted on circumstantial evidence with no motive.
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