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    VH is so loud in concert these days, do you think indoor arenas can no longer do them justice?
    At the 10/14 Indy concert, they guys put on an awesome show.
    But the indoor acoustics of Conseco Fieldhouse just couldn't handle it.
    I've been reading some other similar complaints about other shows.
    Of course, I know it all depends on where your seats are...
    Whaddya think?
    Stick to outdoor venues from now on?
    (i'm optimistically thinking of more tours )

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    Quote Originally Posted by iZach View Post
    VH is so loud in concert these days, do you think indoor arenas can no longer do them justice?
    At the 10/14 Indy concert, they guys put on an awesome show.
    But the indoor acoustics of Conseco Fieldhouse just couldn't handle it.
    I've been reading some other similar complaints about other shows.
    Of course, I know it all depends on where your seats are...
    Whaddya think?
    Stick to outdoor venues from now on?
    (i'm optimistically thinking of more tours )
    awesome question: we were talking about this after the U2 show last time out.

    its not that 'indoor' arenas cant do them justice, its that the NEW indoor arenas are God awful....

    there is NO comparison whatsoever between the sound of a band at maple leaf gardens (awesome) vs. the a.c.c. (utter crap)

    this is not relegated to just van halen, nor is it 'only' because they play loud.... hell that might be saving them, because some of the other shows i have seen at the a.c.c. have made eddie's quiet version of cathedral sound deafening! LOL

    it's too bad the tour got delayed because we probably would have seen them
    at either the molson amphitheater or the new BMO field....

    who saw them at the molson amphitheatre with sam? was the sound any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iZach View Post
    VH is so loud in concert these days, do you think indoor arenas can no longer do them justice?
    At the 10/14 Indy concert, they guys put on an awesome show.
    But the indoor acoustics of Conseco Fieldhouse just couldn't handle it.
    I've been reading some other similar complaints about other shows.
    Of course, I know it all depends on where your seats are...
    Whaddya think?
    Stick to outdoor venues from now on?
    (i'm optimistically thinking of more tours )
    I can second that opinion - I haven't seen too many shows in Conseco and my last go round with CVH live was in 1984, but I thought that the 10/14 show was so loud that it drowned out the detail of the individuals. My seats were in section 17 and as the show went on I couldn't believe how much it began to sound like noise in some parts. In fact, it was probably one of the loudest I've been to in probably 15 years. The show was great but my ears were ringing three days after.

    In contrast, I've seen several shows at Verizon (an outdoor venue north of Indy) and all of the shows sounded fantastic (save Coldplay - great show but muddled sound). Ed and the boys played ay Verizon in 2004 - didn't make that show but wonder if those that did noticed a difference in sound quality.

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    Indoor arena shows are more fun, for me personally. Feels like you're in the same room with the performer - the way a big rock show should be. I grew up with arena rock shows and have never thought outdoor amphitheater shows captured the excitement. It always feels distant.

    Unless you're in the area of the ampeater with actual seats, you're visually screwed and often end up with a big pillar in front of your face. I'm glad the thing got moved to arenas - and hope they stay there.

    BTW, the sound at the United Center show I saw last week was great. No complaints at all. Maybe I just got lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSB517 View Post
    Indoor arena shows are more fun, for me personally. Feels like you're in the same room with the performer - the way a big rock show should be. I grew up with arena rock shows and have never thought outdoor amphitheater shows captured the excitement. It always feels distant.

    Unless you're in the area of the ampeater with actual seats, you're visually screwed and often end up with a big pillar in front of your face. I'm glad the thing got moved to arenas - and hope they stay there.

    BTW, the sound at the United Center show I saw last week was great. No complaints at all. Maybe I just got lucky.
    hey - question: how old is the united center where you are? is it an older arena or something new?

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    Verizon Wireless (still call it Deer Creek) was pretty good in '04.
    Ed's playing wasn't the best (news flash), but the sound was good.
    It's really a great venue.
    I wish they would have played there on this tour.
    More tickets to sell may have meant lower prices? Maybe? (still a glass half-full thinker)

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    From Wikipedia:

    "United Center's acoustics were designed to amplify the noise level in order to recreate "The Roar"--the din of noise that made Chicago Stadium famous, especially during hockey games."

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    Also, the UC opened August 18, 1994.
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    All I can say is that I went to the '04 show at the Rose Garden Arena here in Portland and that was the first concert that I needed earplugs at. That place was really expensive to build, and the ceiling is lined with adjustable accoustic panels specifically for concerts. With all of that technology, it was still too loud to be enjoyable. I left the arena thinking that VH's sound people mis-judged the size of the venue and they should've been turned down. I've been to a lot of concerts over the years (many of them bands from VH's era) and that was the loudest. I'm hoping for better in December when the band gets here.
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    [QUOTE=GSB517;885994]Indoor arena shows are more fun, for me personally. Feels like you're in the same room with the performer - the way a big rock show should be. I grew up with arena rock shows and have never thought outdoor amphitheater shows captured the excitement. It always feels distant.

    Unless you're in the area of the ampeater with actual seats, you're visually screwed and often end up with a big pillar in front of your face. I'm glad the thing got moved to arenas - and hope they stay there.

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    I agree completely! The sound in Charlotte was pretty good IMO.

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    Our new hockey arena in St. Paul, The Xcel Energy Center, has been pretty damn good for concerts; VH was there in '04, and every other concert I've seen there has sounded quite good as far as arena shows go. By contrast, the Target Center in Minneapolis--which is where I'll be seeing VH on Wednesday--was built in the late-80s and is the last of the previous generation of basketball arenas. It is tall and narrow and sounds like ASS for every concert I've ever seen there. Just about every angle for viewing sucks ass, too. In general, sound engineers need to turn it down in these arenas; they're giant concrete bowls.

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    I just got back from Detroit. My ears are NOT ringing. It wasn't that loud. Dave was turned way down.
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    From a lot of the reviews it sounds like it is a loud tour but it probably does depend on the venue and seat location. No doubt seeing VH at an outdoor venue would be sweet. Here in CT we have an amphitheater and from all the shows I've been to there the sound was great. Heres to hoping the tour lasts long enough to play outside in CT.
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    I love outdoor shows so I will always be biased towards them. Hockey arenas were never made for concerts.
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    A note on Conesco: I noticed that the ceiling appeared to be metal with drapes either for appearance or perhaps sound-deadening. But any room with a metal roof will have crap acoustics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I love outdoor shows so I will always be biased towards them. Hockey arenas were never made for concerts.
    The first time I ever saw an amphitheatre show was VH in '98 at the Sandstone (now the Verizon Wireless) in Kansas City. Up to that point I had NO IDEA a rock concert could sound so good.

 

 

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