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    9/11 'Truther" Throws In The Towel

    I had to read this one twice.

    This guy actually had to re-evaluate his beliefs after looking at THE FACTS:

    http://extruther.blogspot.com/2007/0...signation.html

    While he never explains why he got sucked into that crap in the first place he admits that he was wrong and underlines what caused him to break from Dorkville (short answer: $$$)

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    "It was Bush!!! He pulled off 911!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    I had to read this one twice.

    This guy actually had to re-evaluate his beliefs after looking at THE FACTS:

    http://extruther.blogspot.com/2007/0...signation.html

    While he never explains why he got sucked into that crap in the first place he admits that he was wrong and underlines what caused him to break from Dorkville (short answer: $$$)

    Good read.

    Well, it might have to with the fact that the government spent a grand total of <$700,000 on investigating 9/11. The "Independent" Council of the Ken Starr regime spent over $40 million investigating what turned out to be Presidential fellatio...

    I think that might be a start...
    Originally posted by Katydid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Well, it might have to with the fact that the government spent a grand total of <$700,000 on investigating 9/11. The "Independent" Council of the Ken Starr regime spent over $40 million investigating what turned out to be Presidential fellatio...

    I think that might be a start...
    Clinton wasn't impeached for fellatio, he was impeached for lying under oath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnut View Post
    Clinton wasn't impeached for fellatio, he was impeached for lying under oath.

    But he was acquitted, and that fact is irrelevant to the 9/11 point - that the investigation was hasty and second rate given the nature of such a tragedy, and much of the findings of how it happened to a large extent came in response to the charges of the "Truth Movement"...

    And we can go round and round regarding the partisan Congress and the nature of "what the definition of is, is."
    Originally posted by Katydid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    But he was acquitted, and that fact is irrelevant to the 9/11 point - that the investigation was hasty and second rate given the nature of such a tragedy, and much of the findings of how it happened to a large extent came in response to the charges of the "Truth Movement"...
    The claim that it was done "hastily" doesn't somehow back up that the results are any less true. Chomsky said it best .Anyone who thinks the US gov't pulled of 911 is a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnut View Post
    The claim that it was done "hastily" doesn't somehow back up that the results are any less true. Chomsky said it best .Anyone who thinks the US gov't pulled of 911 is a tool.
    I'm not going to argue that. But the fact still stands that the effort to get on as fast as possible to show the terrorists that they can't stop us or whatever has had some dire consequences. And I'm not defending the "Truth Movement."

    But when you have an administration comprised of almost 100% ex-oil executives initially, and Donald Rumsfeld running around asking how Iraq is involved in this only a couple of days after - I can see why people would have concerns...
    Originally posted by Katydid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I'm not going to argue that. But the fact still stands that the effort to get on as fast as possible to show the terrorists that they can't stop us or whatever has had some dire consequences. And I'm not defending the "Truth Movement."

    But when you have an administration comprised of almost 100% ex-oil executives initially, and Donald Rumsfeld running around asking how Iraq is involved in this only a couple of days after - I can see why people would have concerns...
    There's some good points.

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    it was dan qualye who masterminded 9/11. not jr bush.
    they hate if your the same , and they hate you if your different- evh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Well, it might have to with the fact that the government spent a grand total of <$700,000 on investigating 9/11. The "Independent" Council of the Ken Starr regime spent over $40 million investigating what turned out to be Presidential fellatio...

    I think that might be a start...
    First off, the investigation was about White Water and it lead to three convictions (Jim Guy Tucker, Jim and Susan McDougal, Jim McDougal's conviction was later thrown out). Star was HIRED (appointed) by the Clinton Administration and allowed to widen his search into the Lewinski matter by his boss, Janet Reno.

    None of this has anything to do with the attacks of 9/11 and it sure as hell does not justify the ass-hattery of the Troofers.

    We just had this arguement last month, the events of 9/11 are self-evident and largely self explanitory. Nobody in charge of anything important came out of the MANY investigations into the events of that day and the years that lead up to the attacks. Two Presidents were asleep at the wheel, the CIA and FBI were acting like seven year olds, the FAA and the Airlines had guidlines prohibiting racial profiling, the NYFD and NYPD hadn't invested in new communications equipment even after the first WTC bombing and the average American thought that Islamic Terrorism was something that happened "Over There". America had a collectve blind-spot big enough for 19 guys to fly three 767s through, nothing more and nothing less.

    Saddam Hussein would have been on the potential suspect list until the evidence ruled him out. This is because while on that moring of 9/12/2001, when Rumsfeld talked about hitting Iraq, and we knew the names of the hijackers and that they were all Al Qaeda we did not know who else they may have connections to or possibley worked for. For all the conspiracy crap about that brief encounter the fact is that we went into Afghanistan first and not Iraq.

    By the way, none of the above has anything to do with 9/11 either, but at least I am aware of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnut View Post
    The claim that it was done "hastily" doesn't somehow back up that the results are any less true. Chomsky said it best .Anyone who thinks the US gov't pulled of 911 is a tool.
    Looking at from an economical or capitalist perspective any country in a position such as the U.S. would be absolutely fucking braindead if they ever committed such a deed. It would them over as much as the victims. I completely agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lal5150 View Post
    it was dan qualye who masterminded 9/11. not jr bush.
    What would have been the difference?
    Originally posted by Katydid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    First off, the investigation was about White Water and it lead to three convictions (Jim Guy Tucker, Jim and Susan McDougal, Jim McDougal's conviction was later thrown out). Star was HIRED (appointed) by the Clinton Administration and allowed to widen his search into the Lewinski matter by his boss, Janet Reno.
    Dude, I thought this was a 9/11 conspiracy thread?

    Yeah, until it became an all out partisan witch hunt and monumental waste of time. And whoever gave a fuck about Lewinski?

    The investigation was supposed to be about White Water, not throw shit, see what sticks...

    None of this has anything to do with the attacks of 9/11 and it sure as hell does not justify the ass-hattery of the Troofers.
    Then why do you keep bringing it up. I merely stated that the US gov't essentially spent $40M to investigate a blowjob, while they spent $600K on the murders of 3000+ people...

    The fact that the investigation was conducted haphazardly and the Twin Towers area was treated not as a crime scene, but as a demolition area only fed paranoids...

    We just had this arguement last month, the events of 9/11 are self-evident and largely self explanitory. Nobody in charge of anything important came out of the MANY investigations into the events of that day and the years that lead up to the attacks. Two Presidents were asleep at the wheel, the CIA and FBI were acting like seven year olds, the FAA and the Airlines had guidlines prohibiting racial profiling, the NYFD and NYPD hadn't invested in new communications equipment even after the first WTC bombing and the average American thought that Islamic Terrorism was something that happened "Over There". America had a collectve blind-spot big enough for 19 guys to fly three 767s through, nothing more and nothing less.
    Actually, one president was under continuous partisan congressional attack, and another did absolutely nothing. Maybe worse...

    Saddam Hussein would have been on the potential suspect list until the evidence ruled him out.
    Bullshit! Everyone with more than 3 oz's of brain matter knew it was al Qaida. Including Richard Clarke who was awestruck at Rumsfled's repeated focus on the Iraqi gov't...

    This is because while on that moring of 9/12/2001, when Rumsfeld talked about hitting Iraq, and we knew the names of the hijackers and that they were all Al Qaeda we did not know who else they may have connections to or possibley worked for. For all the conspiracy crap about that brief encounter the fact is that we went into Afghanistan first and not Iraq.
    No. More like it was politically expedient to pin this on the Iraqis. And you mean we sorta went into Afghanistan because we were saving up for Iraq...

    By the way, none of the above has anything to do with 9/11 either, but at least I am aware of that.
    Except 9/11 was callously used as a justification...
    Originally posted by Katydid

    Because I realize you all (the Roth Army) are a bunch of twisted, demented, beastility, porn loving, drug addicts and alcoholics and psycopaths. I guess Devil worshippers more aptly describe you.

 

 

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