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    CARACAS, Venezuela The leaders of Iran and Venezuela cemented an alliance aimed at countering the United States while the Iranian president reached out to a new ally in Bolivia and declared that together, "no one can defeat us."

    After being vilified during his U.N. visit this week, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad traveled on to friendlier territory Thursday, first stopping in Bolivia where he pledged $1 billion in investment and then visiting Venezuela to meet President Hugo Chavez.

    "Together we are surely growing stronger, and in truth no one can defeat us," the Iranian leader said through an interpreter. Apparently referring to the U.S., he said, "Imperialism has no other option: Respect the peoples (of the world) or accept defeat."

    Chavez greeted the Iranian leader warmly on a red carpet in front of the presidential palace, where they both stood before microphones and let loose with rhetoric challenging Washington.

    "We will continue resisting to the end in the face of imperialism," Ahmadinejad said. "And the age of imperialism has ended."

    Chavez embraced the Iranian leader, calling him "one of the greatest anti-imperialist fighters" and "one of the great fighters for true peace."

    Chavez also strongly defends Iran's nuclear research, insisting it is for peaceful energy uses despite U.S. charges it is aimed at making nuclear weapons. The Venezuelan leader also says his country plans to eventually develop a nuclear energy program.

    Chavez said he was proud of Ahmadinejad's courage while under hostile questioning at New York's Columbia University. "An imperial spokesman tried to disrespect you, calling you a cruel little tyrant. You responded with the greatness of a revolutionary."

    In Bolivia, the Iranian leader pledged investment over the next five years to help the poor Andean nation tap its vast natural gas reserves, extract minerals, generate more electricity and fund agricultural and construction projects.

    Bolivian President Evo Morales, who joins Chavez as one of Iran's key allies, called Ahmadinejad's visit historic as the two nations established diplomatic relations for the first time.

    Morales brushed off concerns about close ties to a country that the Bush administration says is a sponsor of terrorism, declaring that the "international community can rest assured that Bolivia's foreign policy is dedicated to peace with equality and social justice."

    Ahmadinejad's trip underscored his growing ties to Latin American nations, including Nicaragua and Ecuador, even as the U.S. tries to isolate him internationally.

    The closer relationship is viewed with alarm by the opposition in Venezuela and Bolivia, and by Washington. U.S. Rep. Connie Mack, a Florida Republican, said they remind him "of the relationship that Fidel Castro had with Russia." He urged Washington to reach out more to a region analysts say it has largely ignored since the Sept. 11 attacks.

    Toward that aim, a bipartisan bill is being introduced in Congress on Friday that would establish a 10-year, $2.5 billion program aimed at reducing poverty and expanding the middle class in Latin America. It would require recipient countries to contribute and encourage matching funds from businesses and non-governmental organizations.

    The program would bring more stability in the long run and help the United States "re-establish leadership in the hemisphere" by increasing development assistance by more than a third, said bill co-sponsor Sen. Bob Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat.

    Chavez's government, for its part, has promised more than $8.8 billion in aid, financing and energy funding to the region this year.

    Relations between Iran and Venezuela, meanwhile, have grown very close. Since 2001, they have signed trade agreements worth more than $20 billion in potential investment, according to Iran's official news agency, IRNA.

    They have teamed up to begin producing cars, tractors and plastic goods, and signed an agreement to help Venezuela build public housing. Iran Air began flights between Tehran and Caracas, with a stopover in Syria, earlier this year.

    Venezuelan Jewish leaders objected to the presence of Ahmadinejad, who has called for the end of Israel and questioned the history of the Holocaust.

    "We raise our voice to condemn these statements by the Iranian leader which incite hatred, becoming a threat to world peace," the Venezuelan Confederation of Israeli Associations said in a statement. The country is home to a large Jewish population, including Holocaust survivors.

    It was Ahmadinejad's third visit to Caracas.

    Along with Nicaragua and Bolivia, Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa also wants closer ties with Tehran, and Iran's PressTV reported last month that Iran will for the first time open an embassy in Quito.
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    This is obviously a plot by Chimpy and his BCE cronies to uh...control the fascist something and...um...voter fraud at Dunkin' Donuts and...uh...lots of other bad things...


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    ...first stopping in Bolivia where he pledged $1 billion in investment...
    This brought a wry smile to my face. Ahmadinejad has a habit of making promises of funds with absolutely no follow through. He's been doing it up and down Iran's poorer provinces. My advice to the Bolivians is not to hold their breath on this one.
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    I miss FORD.
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    I will say that if he was around this thread would have 3x the posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    This is obviously a plot by Chimpy and his BCE cronies to uh...control the fascist something and...um...voter fraud at Dunkin' Donuts and...uh...lots of other bad things...


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    I don't know if anyone here knows Maz Jobrani, who is an up and coming Iranian comedian in the US.

    I found a clip of his show which may be particularly relevant to this thread. I thought it was very funny.

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    OPEC: Chavez Warns of $200 per Barrel if Iran Attacked

    Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Saturday that oil prices could more than double to $200 per barrel if the United States attacked Iran over a standoff about Tehran’s nuclear programme.

    “If the United States is crazy enough to attack Iran or commit aggression against Venezuela … oil would not be $100 but $200,” Chavez told an OPEC summit in the Saudi capital Riyadh. His remarks were translated into Arabic.

    Chavez also said $100 per barrel was a “fair” price for oil.

    Oil has lapped against the $100-mark this month, prompting consumer nations to call on the exporter group to help ease price pressure by providing the market with more crude.
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    Well I don't see why we shouldn't trust his opinion, he's never lied or overstated something for political gain before....
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    How much will oil be if we attack Venezuala?

    Hey Hugo, look at a map sometime. The only reason we let you live is because you make our President look smarter, after January, 2009, you need to start thinking about building a bunker.

    Dipshit.

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    CARACAS, Venezuela — A Venezuelan lawmaker repeatedly slapped a journalist in the face during a television program Tuesday, accusing him of slander after he wrote about the death of her infant son years ago.

    Congresswoman Iris Varela stormed onto the set of Gustavo Azocar's morning program on Tachira Regional Television, shouting: "I'm demanding a right of reply from this man who has offended me all the time on this program."

    The on-air confrontation, in which Varela slapped Azocar several times and then hit him with the microphone, grabbed national attention in Venezuela and is likely to generate a wider debate in the country about free speech issues and the news media.

    Azocar is an outspoken critic of leftist President Hugo Chavez, and Varela is one of Chavez's close allies in the National Assembly.

    The lawmaker said her outrage had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with a dishonorable airing of her private life. Azocar recently wrote a book in which he recounted the death of Varela's infant son in a hospital in the early 1990s and called it a determining event in her life.

    "He's offended me and he meddled with the most sacred thing, my dead son, and that's why I came," Varela said, holding the microphone after snatching it from Azocar.

    He held up his eyeglasses, which were broken from an initial blow, exclaiming, "How about this?" Then he said, "Let me do the program."

    "You've slandered me. ... Apologize!," she shouted. After several minutes of ranting, Varela hit him on the head with the microphone and stormed away saying, "Continue with your show!"

    "What he's written deserves a trial," she said later.

    Azocar said afterward that he holds Varela, the state governor and Chavez himself responsible "for anything, God forbid, that could happen to me or my three sons" as a result.

    The incident came as a visiting delegation of the Miami-based Inter American Press Association expressed concern about what it said are threats, intimidation and government pressure facing the press in Venezuela. The IAPA delegation did not address the incident in the southwestern city of San Cristobal, which had not yet been widely reported.

    IAPA delegation member Gonzalo Marroquin also said the group is concerned about a measure that critics warn could allow the government to censor the news media if Chavez declares a state of emergency.

    "We consider this a regression in the constitution since earlier it was contemplated that even in states of emergency freedom of expression could not be limited," Marroquin said.

    Chavez's information minister, Willian Lara, accused IAPA of lying about the constitutional reforms, which are to be decided by voters in a Dec. 2 referendum.

    "The constitutional reform expands and puts the finishing touches on freedom of expression," Lara said in a statement.

    The organization has been at loggerheads with Chavez's government in recent years. Lara has repeatedly accused if of representing the interests of media executives, not journalists; the organization says it sees serious threats to freedom of expression in Venezuela.
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