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    By David Bauder, Associated Press

    NEW YORK — After eating dinner at a famed Harlem restaurant recently, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly told a radio audience he "couldn't get over the fact" that there was no difference between the black-run Sylvia's and other restaurants.

    "It was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun," he said. "And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

    O'Reilly said his fellow patrons were tremendously respectful as he ate dinner with civil rights activist Al Sharpton.

    The comments were made during O'Reilly's nationally syndicated radio broadcast last week. The liberal media watchdog Media Matters for America called attention to them by distributing a transcript and audio clip on the Internet.

    "This is nothing more than left-wing outlets stirring up false racism accusations for ratings," said Bill Shine, senior vice president for programming at Fox News Channel. "It's sad."
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    O'Reilly spoke during a general discussion about racial relations with Fox News analyst Juan Williams. O'Reilly said he believed black Americans were "starting to think more and more for themselves" and backing away from a race-based culture encouraged by Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

    He said he treated Sharpton to dinner to thank him for appearing on his Fox News Channel show.

    O'Reilly pointed to the lack of difference between Sylvia's and other restaurants as a marker of racial progress. He also noted that he went to an Anita Baker concert recently where the audience was evenly mixed between blacks and whites.

    "The band was excellent, but they were dressed in tuxedoes, and this is what white America doesn't know, particularly people who don't have a lot of interaction with black Americans," he said. "They think the culture is dominated by Twista, Ludacris and Snoop Dogg."

    Williams concurred that too many people believe there's little else in black culture beyond profane rap.

    "That's right," O'Reilly said. "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M.F.-er, I want more iced tea."

    Sharpton said he was taken aback that anyone would be surprised at how blacks acted at Sylvia's and will ask O'Reilly on The O'Reilly Factor Wednesday to explain what he meant. Nothing O'Reilly said at the dinner was offensive, said Sharpton spokeswoman Rachel Noerdlinger.

    Karl Frisch, a spokesman for Media Matters, called O'Reilly's comments "ignorant and racially charged."

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    Oh give me a fucking break, who the hell gives a shit. All this country fucking does anymore is just look for something to get "offended" by. Grow the fuck up, and stop being so damn sensitive like a bunch of little babies. Not only that, but it's downright laughable that of all people, Al fucking Sharpton is gonna "ask O'Reilly on The O'Reilly Factor Wednesday to explain what he meant." Please ... I'm not some huge fan of O'Reilly's, but you won't find a much bigger hypocritical racist around than Al Sharpton.
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    Stupid, stupid, stupid comment to make. It's a shame that there are actually people that think afro-americans act the way we're portrayed in rap videos.

    Anyways, the food at Sylvia's is pretty good. Been there a few times in my lifetime. Kinda overrated though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckaInA3Piece View Post
    Stupid, stupid, stupid comment to make. It's a shame that there are actually people that think afro-americans act the way we're portrayed in rap videos.

    Anyways, the food at Sylvia's is pretty good. Been there a few times in my lifetime. Kinda overrated though.
    I'll lay you odds the quote is taken out of context. The problem with words in print (as can often be seen on these very links) is that the intent can be interpreted so many different ways. Could the original quote have been sarcastically stated? Feigned shock?

    Living in the area I live in, I hear comments right here from folks that think we are all redneck, tobacco spittin', gun totin', backwardassed', sheep fuckin', retards. While there are plenty of those around these parts that may qualify; I have lived on both coasts , and have seen plenty of these same qualities in those areas as well.

    In response to the original post. BIG FUCKING DEAL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzefflin View Post
    I'll lay you odds the quote is taken out of context. The problem with words in print (as can often be seen on these very links) is that the intent can be interpreted so many different ways. Could the original quote have been sarcastically stated? Feigned shock?

    Living in the area I live in, I hear comments right here from folks that think we are all redneck, tobacco spittin', gun totin', backwardassed', sheep fuckin', retards. While there are plenty of those around these parts that may qualify; I have lived on both coasts , and have seen plenty of these same qualities in those areas as well.

    In response to the original post. BIG FUCKING DEAL!
    Could be, who knows. I know I'm not too worried about it. I wish Rev. Al would focus on more important issues, and stop stuffin his face at Sylvia's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckaInA3Piece View Post
    Could be, who knows. I know I'm not too worried about it. I wish Rev. Al would focus on more important issues, and stop stuffin his face at Sylvia's.
    Stop being so fucking cool all the time! You, my friend, have a gift. Unfortunately the good revs. and all of the media outlets do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzefflin View Post
    Stop being so fucking cool all the time! You, my friend, have a gift. Unfortunately the good revs. and all of the media outlets do not.
    Thank you, sir. I'd compliment you, but you're a Cowboys fan. Nuff said..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckaInA3Piece View Post
    Thank you, sir. I'd compliment you, but you're a Cowboys fan. Nuff said..
    Well, that blew that all to hell. Classless fans in Philly as usual.
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    Actually, I think it would be fun to go to a restaurant where you shout, "Motherfucker! I want more iced tea!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzefflin View Post
    Well, that blew that all to hell. Classless fans in Philly as usual.
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    The Eagles looked good on Sunday.

    I mean, they played good. They looked like parakeets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckaInA3Piece View Post
    On the bright side, it really appears to have taken the weight off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzefflin View Post
    On the bright side, it really appears to have taken the weight off.
    South Beach Diet my ass. The Philly fan diet is where it's at. You just can't get results like that anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    The Eagles looked good on Sunday.

    I mean, they played good. They looked like parakeets.
    The bad part is those jersey's are selling like crazy, so I'll have to see them around town.
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    Friday, Sep. 28, 2007
    What Bill O'Reilly Really Told Me
    By Juan Williams


    It started with Bill O'Reilly's grandmother. And it blew up into charges of O'Reilly being called a racist and me being attacked as a "Happy Negro" (read that as a lackey or Uncle Tom).

    O'Reilly, controversial host of the top-rated TV cable talk show on Fox News Channel, interviewed me on his radio show about a woman-hating, N-word-spouting rapper being hired by McDonald's for a celebrity endorsement. O'Reilly has been on a crusade against big companies legitimizing a crass, hateful and pornographic popular culture by putting stars like Snoop Dogg, the pornographer/rapper, in their ads.

    Sad to say, but a lot of today's rappers fit the bill.

    They make their name by bragging about how many people they've killed, how many times they've been shot and how many "bitches" they've abused. And those rappers, along with no-talent black comedians who use the N-word and profanity constantly, are creating a very negative image of black people in music, in music videos and in the movies.

    So, O'Reilly says to me that the reality to black life is very different from the lowlife behavior glorified by the rappers. He told me he was at a restaurant in Harlem recently and there was no one shouting profanity, no one threatening people. Then he mentioned going to an Anita Baker concert with an audience that was half black, and in sharp contrast to the corrosive images on TV, well dressed and well behaved.

    I joked with O'Reilly that for him, a guy from Long Island, a visit to Harlem was like a "foreign trip." That's when he brought up his grandma. He said she was prejudiced against black people because she knew no flesh-and-blood black folks but only the one-dimensional TV coverage of black criminals shooting each other and the rappers and comedians glorifying "gangsta" life and thug cool. He criticized his grandmother as irrational for being afraid of people she really did not know.

    I defended his grandma.

    After watching all those racist, minstrel images of black people, I argued, she is right to buy into stereotypes of blacks as ignorant, oversexed and violent. And I said while I worried about his grandma having racist images justified in her mind I had bigger worries.

    The most pernicious damage being done by the twisted presentation of black life in pop culture is the self-destructive message being beamed into young, vulnerable black brains. Young black people, searching for affirmation of their racial identity, are minute by minute being sold on the cheap idea that they are authentically black only if they imitate the violent, threatening attitude of the rappers and use the gutter language coming from the minstrels on TV.

    The lesson from the rappers and comedians is that any young brother or sister who is proud to be black has to treat education with indifference, dismiss love and marriage as the business of white people and dress like the rappers who dress like prisoners — no comb in the jail so they wear doo-rags all day, and no belts so their pants hang down around their butts.

    That was the heart and soul of the conversation between O'Reilly and me. The point of the whole exchange was to defeat corrupt, untrue and racist images of real black people.

    So imagine how totally astounded I was when I heard O'Reilly was attacked on the basis of that radio conversation as a "racist." He was slammed for saying he went to a restaurant in Harlem and had a good time. He was slammed for saying the audience at the concert was nicely dressed. The suggestion was that O'Reilly had racist preconceptions about the restaurant and the concert crowd.

    That twisted assumption led me to say publicly that the attacks on O'Reilly amounted to an effort to take what he said totally out of context in an attempt to brand him a racist by a liberal group that disagrees with much of his politics. But the out-of-context attacks on O'Reilly picked up speed and ended up on CNN, where one commentator branded me a "Happy Negro" for allowing O'Reilly to get by with making racist comments without objection.

    This is so far from the truth of the conversation on the radio that it is beyond a matter of words being taken out of context. This is a pathetic cowardly, personal attack against me intended to damage my credibility and invalidate any support I offer to O'Reilly against the charges that he is a racist.

    For the record, I am a black man who lives in a black neighborhood in a mostly black city, and is married to a black woman. I am also the author of several books and documentaries on the civil rights movement. And any viewer of the O'Reilly TV show knows that O'Reilly and I respect, even like, each other but are frequently at loud, finger-pointing odds over politics and people.

    But this is an attempt to take down O'Reilly and dismiss anyone offering him support — me. This is along the lines of telling anyone who calls attention to the excesses of hip-hop culture a "self-hating" black man and skewering anyone who dares to say there is a crisis in black America because of the high dropout rates, high crime rates and high out-of-wedlock birth rates.That is what happened to another well-known Bill, Bill Cosby, after he spoke out about the self-destructive images and behavior in the black community.

    The critics want to shut up Cosby, O'Reilly, me and anyone else who points out the crisis in black America. They want anyone who dares to speak publicly about problems in black America to fear being called a racist, if they are white, or a "Happy Negro" if they are black. They want silence so they can continue to make money by distorting black life and allowing black on black murder rates to climb along with the black dropout rate and the black poverty rate.

    The critics want to paralyze efforts to help those locked in poverty and too often in a criminal culture where acceptance of drug use and violence becomes acceptable. They don't want black people to be known as Americans with a long distinguished history of patriotism, reverence for education and a willingness to fight for America's ideals — justice for all — despite the harsh facts of slavery and legal segregation.

    They prefer to bash anyone who points out their tragic, mindless willingness to sell out the history and pride of black people to make a buck. But take this from the "Happy Negro." The critics are some Sad People.

    Williams is a senior correspondent for NPR, an analyst for Fox News and the author of Enough
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