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    Air Force probes mistaken transport of nuclear warheads

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Six nuclear warheads on cruise missiles were mistakenly carried on a flight from North Dakota to Louisiana last week, prompting a major investigation, military officials have confirmed.

    The plane took the cruise missiles from Minot Air Force Base to Barksdale Air Force Base for decommissioning Thursday, the Air Force said.

    "This is a major gaffe, and it's going to cause some heads to roll down the line," said Don Shepperd, a retired Air Force major general and military analyst for CNN.

    The warheads should have been removed from the missiles before they were attached to the B-52 bomber, according to military officials.

    The crew was unaware that the plane was carrying nuclear weapons, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the extraordinary sensitivity and security surrounding the case.

    The mistake was discovered after the plane's flight to Louisiana.

    Minot Air Force Base is in north central North Dakota and Barksdale Air Force Base is in northwest Louisiana near the Texas border.

    Lt. Col. Ed Thomas said that while the military does not publicly discuss nuclear weapons procedures, in this case the Air Force decided to acknowledge the incident in order to reassure the public.

    "The public was never in any danger," Thomas said.

    But officials also said the incident was a major breach of security rules surrounding nuclear weapons. One Air Force official said that he could not recall anything similar happening.

    The Air Force announced that all flights of fighters and bombers in the United States will be halted on September 14 to allow for a review of procedures.

    Because the incident involved nuclear weapons, it was serious enough that President Bush was notified, according to military officials. Once the mistake was discovered, the Air Force immediately began an inventory of all of its nuclear weapons, a military official said.

    Maj. Gen. Douglas Raaberg, director of Air and Space Operations at the Air Combat Command in Langley, Virginia, has been ordered to investigate how the nuclear-tipped missiles were flown across the country without anyone knowing, officials said.

    One officer already has been relieved of duty, and several others "decertified" from handling nuclear weapons, officials said.

    A military official told CNN there was no nuclear risk to public safety because the weapons were not armed. Officials believe that if the plane had crashed or the missiles somehow had fallen off the wings, the warheads would have remained inert and there would have been no nuclear detonation, though conventional explosive material in the warhead could have detonated.

    Military officials also say the missiles could not have been launched because of multiple security procedures required to be enacted before any launch would have been authorized.

    Shepperd said the U.S. had agreed in a Cold War-era treaty not to fly nuclear weapons. "It appears that what happened was this treaty agreement was violated," he said.

    He agreed with military officials that the situation could not have caused a nuclear detonation, but added, "Any time you have nuclear material on board, if the airplane crashes, nuclear material can be spread in the immediate area of the crash, so you get radioactivity in the immediate area of the crash."

    "This is serious business but it was not dangerous business," Shepperd said.

    The story was first reported by the Army Times, a privately published newspaper.
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    I would have given serious cash to see the look on the faces of the crew when they learned that they were loaded up with the serious bang-sticks.

    You know it was some NCO who noticed and asked "Hey, uh, why are you guys carrying nukes?". Then the pilot says "We're carrying WHAT?"

    I had a friend who crew aircraft out of Iceland. One day they had to load a Nuke onto an F-4. A they were raising the bomb up to the wing-mount the cart slipped and scatched the mid-scetion of the bomb casing. The Senior officer let out a cry much like a cold-wet cat.

    Because this involves nukes we'll never get all the details but they'll bring in special fans for all the incoming doo-doo.
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    How come other countries aren't lynching the USA for Weapons of Mass Destruction?

    Oh right. It's only done under unconfirmed speculation....
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    Quote Originally Posted by h*bunter View Post
    How come other countries aren't lynching the USA for Weapons of Mass Destruction?

    Oh right. It's only done under unconfirmed speculation....


    Everyone should know by now that you can have them only if WE say you can have them. And even if you don't have them then we just might say that you do, and the rest is history. Goes without saying that we can have all the WMD we want. Ahhh sweet liberty.

    You'd better watch out Al-Qanada! You guys are looking pretty darn suspicious these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post
    Everyone should know by now that you can have them only if WE say you can have them. And even if you don't have them then we just might say that you do, and the rest is history. Goes without saying that we can have all the WMD we want. Ahhh sweet liberty.

    You'd better watch out Al-Qanada! You guys are looking pretty darn suspicious these days.
    imagine if that plane went down!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    There's a hydrogen bomb in a swamp near Seymour Johnson AFB in eastern NC. And there was also some sort of incident where a piece went into the Savannah River.

    Don't lynch me if I don't have the exacts here.

    Axx, have you ever read about either of these incidents? The AF one was a bomber crash in the early 60's, but I've read three different stories over the years, just basic newspaper stuff. One detailed that there something like 8 safety mechanisms on the H-bomb and 7 failed or some shit.

    Anyway, there's no telling how often these blunders occur.

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    I heard about this earlier today. So, I have 6 live nukes sitting about 5 miles from me now, eh?

    Gonna see if I can talk to my contacts over there at Barksdale, and see if they'll let me have one to take down to the next TLW, so we can set it off on Saturday Night. We'll all get in Ed/KT's pool, drinks in hand, and watch the fireworks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by namedmydaughterHALEN View Post
    imagine if that plane went down!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I think nukes have to be triggered to blow their core
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    The crew was unaware that the plane was carrying nuclear weapons
    Learn to stop worrying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by janthraxx View Post
    I think nukes have to be triggered to blow their core
    So? Say the plane went down and some backwoods hicks, upon finding the wreckage, decided the "big shiny metal doodads" would look just great if propped up next to, or were even used to improve, the shithouse?

    Swell, a whole generation of inbred, two-headed doofuses wandering the landscape, giving off a lime green "glow in the dark" phosphorescence and answering to the name of "Cletus".

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    Quote Originally Posted by janthraxx View Post
    I think nukes have to be triggered to blow their core
    find it hard to believe that they would not detonate upon impact in a plane crash. thats one hell of a shell casing. the impact, the heat. i say mushroom cloud!

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    Our nuclear warheads won't detonate unless they're armed. You can pound them with a sledge hammer and the nuclear reaction will not initiate, the high-powered explosives will go off though and blow you to kingdom come.

    Here's a list and explaination of all US accidents involving nuclear/atomic weapons:

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