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    Default Poll: Iraq War Creates Terrorism

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    Iraq War Creates Terrorism, Say Americans

    August 20, 2007

    (Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Many people in the United States believe their country’s military involvement in Iraq is making them more vulnerable to a new terrorist attack, according to a poll by CBS News. 46 per cent of respondents think the Iraq war is creating more terrorists who are planning to harm the U.S., up two points since July.

    Conversely, 18 per cent of respondents think being in Iraq is helping eliminate terrorists who might be planning to attack the U.S.

    The coalition effort against Saddam Hussein’s regime was launched in March 2003. At least 3,705 American soldiers have died during the military operation, and more than 27,400 troops have been wounded in action.

    In December 2005, Iraqi voters renewed their National Assembly. In May 2006, Shiite United Iraqi Alliance member Nouri al-Maliki officially took over as prime minister.

    In October 2006, U.S. president George W. Bush justified his decision to launch the coalition effort in Iraq, declaring, "This country of ours must take threats seriously before they fully materialize. Saddam Hussein was a threat; the world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power. And now the fundamental question is, does this country have the wherewithal and the perseverance to help this young democracy flourish in the heart of the Middle East? I will tell you, it’s important to defeat the enemy overseas so we do not have to face them here at home." 49 per cent of respondents believe the U.S. will be safer from terrorists in the long run if it stays politically out of other countries’ affairs, while 41 per cent think it will be best if the U.S. confronts countries and groups that promote terrorism.

    On Jan. 10, Bush introduced his new course of action for the coalition effort, which includes an increase in U.S. troop levels. On Jul. 12, Bush discussed the Iraqi government’s progress, declaring, "Of the 18 benchmarks Congress asked us to measure, we can report that satisfactory progress is being made in eight areas."

    The U.S. Congress has asked commander of the Multi-National Force - Iraq David Petraeus and U.S. ambassador in Iraq Ryan Crocker to provide a comprehensive assessment of the situation in Iraq in September.

    On Aug. 16, a report showed that 99 soldiers killed themselves in 2006, the highest number in the U.S. army in 26 years. Nearly one third of the soldiers committed suicide while in Iraq or Afghanistan. Army officials also said there were 948 suicide attempts last year.

    Democratic Washington senator Patty Murray—a member of the Veterans Affairs Committee—discussed the report’s findings, saying, "I am deeply concerned but not surprised." Murray added that this high rate could be due to longer and repeated tours of duty and to the fact that many members of the military do not understand how to deal with post-traumatic stress disorder.

    Polling Data

    Right now, is the U.S. involvement in Iraq creating more terrorists who are planning to attack the U.S., eliminating terrorists who were planning to attack the U.S., or is the U.S. involvement in Iraq not affecting the number of terrorists planning to attack the U.S.?



    Aug. 2007 - Jul. 2007


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    46% - 44%

    Eliminating


    18% - 18%

    Not affecting


    17% - 27%


    Unsure


    9% - 11%




    Which comes closer to your view? In the long run, the U.S. will be safer from terrorism if it confronts the countries and groups that promote terrorism; or, In the long run, the U.S. will be safer from terrorism if it stays out of other countries’ affairs.

    Confronts: 41%

    Stays out: 49%

    Unsure: 10%

    Source: CBS News
    Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,214 American adults, conducted from Aug. 8 to Aug. 12, 2007. Margin of error is 3 per cent.

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    How useful. I'm sure the people surveyed derived their opinions from thinking of what motivates their friends and family who happen to be terrorists.

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    The world would hate us even more if we suddenly became "all isolationist" and whatnot.

    CBS News creates depression, when taken in large doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL View Post
    How useful. I'm sure the people surveyed derived their opinions from thinking of what motivates their friends and family who happen to be terrorists.
    Or soldiers getting killed in Iraq?
    Originally posted by Katydid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red View Post
    The world would hate us even more if we suddenly became "all isolationist" and whatnot.

    CBS News creates depression, when taken in large doses.
    Yeah, everyone fucking despises Switzerland......
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    The BCE creates terrorists!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZORBA5150 View Post
    The BCE creates terrorists!
    They certainly did in this case....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Yeah, everyone fucking despises Switzerland......
    Switzerland isn't writing checks to the world, and their knives are useless as a deterrent ever since the Chinese invented firecrackers and gunpowder.

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    Wow, a poll....neat. Did the people who participated get something cool like coupons to Chilis?

    Some people would say that Waco "Created" Tim McVeigh, that the KKK was "Created" out of Northern injustice to the South.

    Most people would say that McVeigh and the KKK are just a bunch of dangerous assholes just looking for an excuse to justify their misdeeds.

    I would fall into the latter catagory.


    Iraq is just the latest Islamisist nut-job battlefield. Chechnya, the Balkans, Chad, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Yemen, Oman, Lebanon and so on and so on were all places that crazy Muslems traveled to to "Defend" Islam.

    I would doubt that the people who responded to that poll could find even half of those places on a map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Yeah, everyone fucking despises Switzerland......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    Wow, a poll....neat. Did the people who participated get something cool like coupons to Chilis?

    Some people would say that Waco "Created" Tim McVeigh, that the KKK was "Created" out of Northern injustice to the South.

    Most people would say that McVeigh and the KKK are just a bunch of dangerous assholes just looking for an excuse to justify their misdeeds.

    I would fall into the latter catagory.


    Iraq is just the latest Islamisist nut-job battlefield. Chechnya, the Balkans, Chad, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Yemen, Oman, Lebanon and so on and so on were all places that crazy Muslems traveled to to "Defend" Islam.

    I would doubt that the people who responded to that poll could find even half of those places on a map.
    Actually, McVeigh's primary grievance against the US government wasn't Waco, it was the first Iraq war, of which McVeigh himself was a veteran. He came to the realization that war was bullshit and that the US government (or more accurately, the BCE military industrial complex war machine) is hypocrisy at it's most blatant.

    Not saying that justifies McVeigh's response, but what the fuck is going to happen in this country when more "McVeigh's" come home from Chimpy's war. You won't have to worry about fictional Al Qaeda's with a bunch of post traumatic Mc Veighs running loose.

    And don't think it won't happen.... every week I read some new account in the news about some recently returned soldier going nuts on his wife or his neighbors or someone.

    God damn the whole fucking murderous hypocrisy of this war machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Or soldiers getting killed in Iraq?
    I've discovered your talent. You're good at not getting it.

    Tell me how this works. They asked Americans if the Iraq war causes terrorism? Where--exactly--is the value in that? There's certainly no truth in it. Personally, I have no idea what precisely motivates a man/woman/child to kill civilians. None of my friends are terrorists. I've never spoken to a terrorist. I don't know any terrorists. How the fuck would, or anyone like me, know if the Iraq war is a cause of terrorism. You'd have to ask terrorists that in order for a poll such as this to have any value what so ever.

    You might as well ask 1,214 American adults if Chilean teenagers prefer strawberry or grape soda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZORBA5150 View Post
    The BCE creates terrorists!

    Misguided US policies do. They surely create a support base that makes it easier for die hard terrorist to operate...

    Would "Islamofascist" terrorism even be an issue if we didn't need Middle Eastern oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL View Post
    I've discovered your talent. You're good at not getting it.
    What is "it?" Not knowing what you're talking 'bout?

    Tell me how this works. They asked Americans if the Iraq war causes terrorism? Where--exactly--is the value in that? There's certainly no truth in it. Personally, I have no idea what precisely motivates a man/woman/child to kill civilians.
    A basic manual on counterinsurgency would be a good start. Were you ever in the military?

    None of my friends are terrorists.
    Good to know!

    I've never spoken to a terrorist. I don't know any terrorists. How the fuck would, or anyone like me, know if the Iraq war is a cause of terrorism. You'd have to ask terrorists that in order for a poll such as this to have any value what so ever.

    You might as well ask 1,214 American adults if Chilean teenagers prefer strawberry or grape soda.
    Try reading some books on it from like say - the CIA analyst that tracked Bin Laden (Michael Scheuer [AKA "Anonymous"])
    Originally posted by Katydid

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    I've rarely seen such a pathetic response from a self-professed "big boy." You've got no way to counter my point, so you toss out that shit in an attempt to start a fight? Pathetic.

    And what's with the implication that you read a "basic manual on counterinsurgency" while in the military? All you've done with that is convinced me that you're a poser. People who pretend to have been in the military in order to puff themselves up are scum.

 

 

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