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    WASHINGTON ó Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday.

    "I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered."

    "And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another," Lute added in his first interview since he was confirmed by the Senate in June.

    President Nixon abolished the draft in 1973. Restoring it, Lute said, would be a "major policy shift" and Bush has made it clear that he doesn't think it's necessary.

    The repeated deployments affect not only the troops but their families, who can influence whether a service member decides to stay in the military, Lute said.

    "There's both a personal dimension of this, where this kind of stress plays out across dinner tables and in living room conversations within these families," he said. "And ultimately, the health of the all-volunteer force is going to rest on those sorts of personal family decisions."

    The military conducted a draft during the Civil War and both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. The Selective Service System, re-established in 1980, maintains a registry of 18-year-old men.

    Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., has called for reinstating the draft as a way to end the Iraq war.

    Bush picked Lute in mid-May as a deputy national security adviser with responsibility for ensuring efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan are coordinated with policymakers in Washington. Lute, an active-duty general, was chosen after several retired generals turned down the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum View Post
    Oh screw you, Doug.

    My thoughts exactly. I have a better idea instead of bringin back the draft....LETS GET THE FUCK OUTTA IRAQ!

    Im sorry but whenever this sorta thing gets brought up, it just pisses me off cuz it tells me that our goverment doesnt know what the fuck they are doing so they think that by sending in even MORE troops that we are going to be able to stop this civil war that wasnt even our problem to begin with!!!

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    The draft right now is absolute assinine. I'm currently in the military and have been forced out in the Air Force as part of force shaping. At least the Air Force has lots of money to spend on golf courses.

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    "And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another," Lute added in his first interview since he was confirmed by the Senate in June.
    So this is actually a non-story. Nuclear weapons have also been an option on the table as well, doesn't mean that we're going to use them. In fact, I'd bet we'll nuke some place before we reinstitute the draft.

    Sorry gang, just a scary story to tell kids around the anti-war campfire.

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    On the other hand, a draft with NO exemptions or deferments would certainly prompt a lot of people to take this bullshit more seriously.

    Even though the overwhelming majority of this country opposes the Iraq occupation, there's two reasons why there's not an active anti-war movement on the level that there was in the Vietnam era.

    First is the corporate whore media. They show you no bodies, no coffins, and very little war at all. Vietnam was shown as the bloody hellish mess that it was.

    Second is the lack of a draft. Students protested the war because they didn't want to go. Returning soldiers protested the war because they didn't want anyone else to go. That was the energy of the anti-war movement.

    A draft would fix the second part easily. And the overwhelming response would be so huge that the whore media wouldn't be able to ignore it for long.

    I don't want a draft, because I don't want this stupid war at all. And I definitely don't want another illegal invasion, this time being Iran, which would be the real purpose of a draft at this point. But at least it would wake up this country to the fact that merely disapproving of an illegal war isn't enough. It's time to DEMAND an end to this bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiil_A_Fan View Post
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    No it isn't, but our freedom is NOT on the line in Iraq....and you aren't going to convince anyone with a lick of common sense otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    I don't want a draft, because I don't want this stupid war at all. And I definitely don't want another illegal invasion, this time being Iran, which would be the real purpose of a draft at this point. But at least it would wake up this country to the fact that merely disapproving of an illegal war isn't enough. It's time to DEMAND an end to this bullshit.
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    I donít want a war I donít want a draft, but it is out of our hands. There will be a draft after the election and they will call me, you and every one else. We are not going to be on this earth forever and if your goning to die, die with your boots on.

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    Fuck the draft. I don't think that the government should be able to fuck families up because they think we have to protect our country. I'm all for protecting our country but are we really protecting it with this BULLSHIT that's going on in Iraq? If so, where's that piece of shit Osama Bin Laden at? Why haven't they captured him and brought him to justice? Why are the gas prices so fucking high? This shit in Iraq is NOT helping the American People one bit. It is NOT protecting our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiil_A_Fan View Post
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    I don’t want a war I don’t want a draft, but it is out of our hands. There will be a draft after the election and they will call me, you and every one else. We are not going to be on this earth forever and if your goning to die, die with your boots on.
    According to your profile, you're 38, meaning you'll be pushing 40 after the next election. So even if there is a draft, you will not be called.

    Secondly, I agree with FORD. This is propaganda to increase support for the troops who are already there, to tell us, "appreciate what you have because it could get a lot worse," so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum View Post
    Then don't reply to me.
    OK I be your huckleberry that is just my game. You see sir it is mind over matter I donít mind because you donít matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VivaVH View Post
    According to your profile, you're 38, meaning you'll be pushing 40 after the next election. So even if there is a draft, you will not be called.

    Secondly, I agree with FORD. This is propaganda to increase support for the troops who are already there, to tell us, "appreciate what you have because it could get a lot worse," so to speak.
    Well sir I hate to refute you but there was 45 year old men call up during WW2. If I am not mistaken also I have been trained and I am ready. So it just mite be this Devil Dog who has your back in a fire fight some day. I Love this Country, and Freedom is not free Ask any DAV member.

 

 

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