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    I pulled this from Fark.com. This guy probably went a little to far but I can empathize.


    Homeowner takes swing at alleged mailbox vandals
    Police say man hit pair with baseball bat after seeing destroyed property

    By JORDAN CARLEO-EVANGELIST, Staff writer
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    First published: Thursday, July 26, 2007

    COLONIE -- Countless suburban homeowners might forgive Lee Yattaw. Some might even applaud him.
    The way Colonie police tell it, the 39-year-old bartender carried out arguably the ultimate suburban revenge fantasy. It could land him in prison for seven years.

    Two men allegedly smashed Yattaw's mailbox, and Yattaw, police say, responded by striking the men with an aluminum baseball bat -- leaving both bruised and one of the pair needing 12 staples in his head.

    William Haas, 27, and Brian J. Stone, 33, face multiple charges themselves for misdemeanor criminal mischief.

    Yattaw's attorney said his client was defending his property.

    The story, according to court papers and the three men's statements to police, began early on the morning of July 13. Combined, they gave this account:

    It was at about 3:15 a.m. and Yattaw had just come home from work. He was getting ready for bed when he and his wife heard four loud crashes from outside their Collegeview Drive home. Yattaw grabbed his baseball bat and outside, where he says he saw his mailbox broken and two men walking away.

    Yattaw, according to police, whacked Stone in the head and hand and Haas in the legs, arm and face. The pair fled, bruised and bleeding, to a path through the woods, where police found them.

    Initially, Stone claimed to be clueless as to what caused the assault, according to police.

    "So you were just walking down the street and he came out of his house and hit you with a bat," Officer Phillip Winglosky inquired, according to court papers.

    "Well, no, I might have done something," Stone conceded.

    Haas would later tell police the mailbox was broken accidently during horseplay while he and Stone walked home from Tommy's Place, a nearby bar on Albany Shaker Road.

    Yattaw faces two counts of felony assault and is free on $10,000 bail.

    Intentionally destroying a mailbox is a federal crime punishable, technically, by up to three years in prison and a $250,000 fine, according to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

    Smashing mailboxes with a bat or other object, also known as "mailbox baseball," has long been a suburban and rural pastime.

    But the bat in this case was wielded against the vandals as they and police describe it.

    "In my opinion, Mr. Yattaw was protecting his property," his attorney, Larry Rosen, said. "We'll let the legal system determine what his culpability is."

    State law allows a person to use physical force to stop or prevent theft or criminal mischief -- with two important qualifications, said Albany Law School professor Dan Moriarty.

    "Deadly physical force" -- an action that could be "readily capable of causing death or other serious physical injury" -- is not allowed and force in general may be used only to stop the crime.

    "Whether you can restrain them from throwing a second rock at a second window or kicking your other fender in, you could probably do that," Moriarty said. "But to engage in retribution, there may be a problem there because it's not necessary."

    Moriarty, however, is acquainted with the particular rage induced by mailbox mashers. A specialist in criminal law, he confessed to having fantasized in the past about filling his pink flamingo mailbox with cement to deliver a punishing blow to those who so callously decapitated it, should they dare try again.

    "It is modern-day Vandals and Visigoths," Moriarty said. "It's uncivilized."

    Barbara Briggs, 83, a longtime town resident, says she was one of two people on her block in Newtonville to have their mailboxes vandalized this past Saturday night, and she shares Moriarty's view.

    "What sense does it make?" Briggs said. "Mine was just pulled out of the ground -- just right out of the ground."

    Police said they can't quantify how many mailboxes are vandalized each year because the mayhem is typically classified as generic criminal mischief. Detective Lt. John Van Alstyne said the vandalism seems to spike during the summer, but this was the first case he could recall where a homeowner fought back -- which police do not encourage.

    "You need to be a good witness. We don't want anybody to go out and confront people," Van Alstyne said. "Mr. Yattaw took the law into his own hands, which is obviously not the right thing to do."

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    What kind of idiots play "mailbox baseball" without a CAR??

    Er.... not that I would know personally about any such activities.

    Moriarty, however, is acquainted with the particular rage induced by mailbox mashers. A specialist in criminal law, he confessed to having fantasized in the past about filling his pink flamingo mailbox with cement to deliver a punishing blow to those who so callously decapitated it, should they dare try again.
    I'm amazed at the creativity some folks have employed around here in areas that used to be popular for "mailbox baseball teams". Most are obvious, like brick and cement enclosures or a re-bar cage. My favorite was probably the huge mailbox with a small mailbox inside of it, with cement filling the gap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    What kind of idiots play "mailbox baseball" without a CAR??

    Er.... not that I would know personally about any such activities.



    I'm amazed at the creativity some folks have employed around here in areas that used to be popular for "mailbox baseball teams". Most are obvious, like brick and cement enclosures or a re-bar cage. My favorite was probably the huge mailbox with a small mailbox inside of it, with cement filling the gap.

    What kind of idiots still do this shit at age 27 & 33 ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    What kind of idiots still do this shit at age 27 & 33 ???
    Good question! I didn't even notice the ages the first time I read this. If I ever would have engaged in such activities - and I'm not saying I did - it would have been long before my first legal beer.
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    LOL...my brother-in-law was busted for mailbox baseball and was cuffed and arrested in our backyard. He was 17 at the time. Of course, this was before he started dating my sister. After he was arrested, he gave over 30 addresses of houses he'd hit in the month preceding! Anyway, he got a VERY hefty fine and was on probation. Our mailbox had been hit a couple of times. Let's just say my dad was NOT too happy about it, and it was quite an uncomfortable situation when my brother-in-law had to go to my dad when he first started dating my sister and "fess-up". He's now an attorney---ha!
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    I haven't heard anyone here comment on the potential punishment for the owner of the home (for attacking the dicks that were doing this). What do you guys think, should he have the potential for several years in jail?

    I know he went overboard, no question. But I have a hard time thinking this guy should serve time. Hopefully he won't, but you never know.

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    You know, I just read this story again, and one thing does seem very weird.......

    Why is the homeowner the only one who had a bat in his hands? By his own description, he came out of his house with the bat, so it doesn't belong to the alleged vandals.

    Furthermore, if the vandals had been armed with a bat, or similar weapon, they would have hit back when attacked. There were two of them, after all.

    They didn't mow down the mailbox with a vehicle, as they were on foot. So how exactly DID the mailbox get damaged?

    Maybe it was actually an accident. Not to say these guys weren't drunken dumbasses, but at least they weren't driving.

    If their lawyer can make a case with that scenario, the homeowner could be fucked
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    Our mailbox at work was the victim of some 'players' several times.

    They would even drive over the damn thing.

    After replacing it several times, we finally mounted it to a building.

    Since the little bastards couldn't hit/drive over it anymore, they started stealing the mail out of it on the weekends.

    All the post office said is "You really should put a lock on it."

    It is just sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy 150 View Post
    Our mailbox at work was the victim of some 'players' several times.

    They would even drive over the damn thing.

    After replacing it several times, we finally mounted it to a building.

    Since the little bastards couldn't hit/drive over it anymore, they started stealing the mail out of it on the weekends.

    All the post office said is "You really should put a lock on it."

    It is just sad.
    My ex brother in law put in the mailbox from hell after theirs got hit a few times. Let's just put it this way: If anyone tries to play mailbox baseball, they are probably going to end up with broken hands. The post is huge and it's deep into the ground and there's some serious steel in both the post and the mailbox itself. He also put a lock on it, so you can't just drive up and take the mail. It's sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    My ex brother in law put in the mailbox from hell after theirs got hit a few times. Let's just put it this way: If anyone tries to play mailbox baseball, they are probably going to end up with broken hands. The post is huge and it's deep into the ground and there's some serious steel in both the post and the mailbox itself. He also put a lock on it, so you can't just drive up and take the mail. It's sweet!

    Not a bad move, especially in a rural area. Because if the mailbox baseball don't get ya, the occasional random drunk will. And it's better that a drunk hit a steel mailbox post than killing a live tree, or a dead tree with live wires attached, or worst of all a human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    What kind of idiots still do this shit at age 27 & 33 ???
    Thats what I was thinking.
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    This sounds like a scene from a possible 'Dazed and Confused II'.
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    Those guys were/are DUMBASSES.
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