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    LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A judge has ordered a man to continue paying alimony to his ex-wife -- even though she's in a registered domestic partnership with another woman and even uses the other woman's last name.

    California marriage laws say alimony ends when a former spouse remarries, and Ron Garber thought that meant he was off the hook when he learned his ex-wife had registered her new relationship under the state's domestic partnership law.

    An Orange County judge didn't see it that way.

    The judge ruled that a registered partnership is cohabitation, not marriage, and that Garber must keep writing the checks, $1,250 a month, to his ex-wife, Melinda Kirkwood. Garber plans to appeal.

    The case highlights questions about the legal status of domestic partnerships, an issue the California Supreme Court is weighing as it considers whether same-sex marriage is legal. An appeals court upheld the state's ban on same-sex marriage last year, citing the state's domestic partners law and ruling that it was up to the Legislature to decide whether gays could wed.

    Lawyers arguing in favor of same-sex marriage say they will cite the June ruling in the Orange County case as a reason to unite gay and heterosexual couples under one system: marriage.

    In legal briefs due in August to the California Supreme Court, Therese Stewart, chief deputy city attorney for San Francisco, intends to argue that same sex couples should have access to marriage and that domestic partnership doesn't provide the same reverence and respect as marriage.

    The alimony ruling shows "the irrationality of having a separate, unequal scheme" for same-sex partners, Stewart said.

    Garber knew his former wife was living with another woman when he agreed to the alimony, but he said he didn't know the two women had registered with the state as domestic partners under a law that was intended to mirror marriage.

    "This is not about gay or lesbian," Garber said. "This is about the law being fair."

    Kirkwood's attorney, Edwin Fahlen, said the agreement was binding regardless of whether his client was registered as a domestic partner or even married. He said both sides agreed the pact could not be modified and Garber waived his right to investigate the nature of Kirkwood's relationship.

    Garber's attorney, William M. Hulsy, disagreed.

    "If he had signed that agreement under the same factual scenario except marriage, not domestic partnership, his agreement to pay spousal support would be null and void," Hulsy said.
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    That's just fucking plain stupid. Out.
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    "Gee, Chris.....why are you still single at 37?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum View Post
    "Gee, Chris.....why are you still single at 37?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by track 5 View Post
    Who was this directed to? Out.
    Me.

    Just a commentary on why some people ask me why I avoid the ol' ball and chain.
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    I wonder if this guy will campaign for legalization of gay marriage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum View Post
    Me.

    Just a commentary on why some people ask me why I avoid the ol' ball and chain.
    LOL. Got ya. Out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum View Post
    "Gee, Chris.....why are you still single at 37?"

    LOL! Trust me on this...if you found the right person you'd risk it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tropical Storm Tracey View Post
    LOL! Trust me on this...if you found the right person you'd risk it.


    TST<--------------right HH?-------uh, right?----------j/k LOL!!
    If I "find" Katherine Heigl....sure, I'll risk it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum View Post
    If I "find" Katherine Heigl....sure, I'll risk it.

    See here's your whole problem...uh, but I see your point...she's really beautiful... but looks aren't everything....that's where money comes in and hopefully not yours-LOL!!! Good luck with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tropical Storm Tracey View Post
    See here's your whole problem...
    See....my wanting to remain single isn't a problem. It is in fact my desire. I simply wanted to point out the impossibly high standards that have to be met in order for me to give that up. I will never ever ever ever land Katherine Heigl.....ergo, I will always be happily single.

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    I've never been married and I must say this article doesn't make it any more attractive to me. I'm not gay of course, but from everyone around me that's married and from all the crap I hear, I can't imagine that type of commitment.

    I can barely commit to a paint color, much less a "life partner."

    Jeez, just the mention of commitment reminds me of the loony bin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum View Post
    See....my wanting to remain single isn't a problem. It is in fact my desire. I simply wanted to point out the impossibly high standards that have to be met in order for me to give that up. I will never ever ever ever land Katherine Heigl.....because she is the future Mrs. FORD!

    Elementary, my dear Watson.
    Elementary indeed.



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    That really is a hot photo.
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