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    Default "5150" the song.... was it about Dave?

    From the first time I heard the song "5150" I always thought the lyrics sounded a lot like they could be in reference to Dave. Now, of course, if Sammy had indeed written the lyrics then we can assume it was about a current or previous girlfriend/wife. But I can't imagine there was never a thought amongst the guys when they recorded it way back when that those lyrics seemed to sum up the relationship between Dave and the rest of Van Halen...

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    I heard rumors that this be true. ARgh.
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    I dont think its 'bout Dave.
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    Uh... I dunno. I don't think the VH boys were interested in meeting Dave halfway at that point. Well, maybe they were--if it was in the interest of kicking him in the nads.

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    It would make more sense if the guy writing the lyrics wasn't the only one with no history with Dave.

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    Its the best VH Song ever!!!!!

    and its got nothing to do with Dave I tell you
    What is understood need not be discussed

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    It's about Sam's tennis partner.....

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    I don't think they were written about Dave, I think if anything Ed said "try to write about a person that's not a team player" or something so they might be indirectly written about Dave. Sam didn't know Dave at all back then so I don't think he could have written about him unless the rest of the band just bitched and bitched about him the whole time so it translated to a song.

    I do think it's one of the best VH songs, lyrically, musically..it's really a standout song.

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    I always thought it was in reference to Sammy's first wife, Betsy...
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    I can't see it being about Dave, Betsy seems more plausible to me. Maybe it was written in general about the two of them? A general song about people who take and never give?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ain't Talkin' Bout' Love View Post
    I can't see it being about Dave, Betsy seems more plausible to me. Maybe it was written in general about the two of them? A general song about people who take and never give?
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    I don't think it was about Betsy, they seemed to be OK at the time, there used to be an entertainment tonight interview on youtube where Sam talks about how they're still happy after 20+ years, they didn't get divorced until 194ish.

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    I've just always thought it was about an ex-girlfriend or something. I never made the connection to Dave and I really doubt it's about him.
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    Depends solely upon how much one reads into it. For instance, after leaving VH, Dave Roth stated in interviews that he'd wished for a parting of the ways in order for the band to take a well deserved rest, sort out some stiffling personal issues (Ed and Al's drinking in particular) then get it back together, like Aerosmith. I'd often wondered if the "why draw the line" (an Aerosmith title) section of the song was aimed at Dave in this regard, followed by the mention that compromise was beyond his reach.

    Yet coupled with the very public stance against Roth in interviews at the time (and the live definition of "5150" by Hagar as describing a whacked out, flipped out sort of person), it gets confusing.

    I'd always taken the "5150" thing as a comment more about Ed Van Halen's self confessed awareness of his own strangeness (leading him to naming his studio after the phrase), which even Rolling Stone had gone as far as to call "Michael Jacksonly" (back when this was a compliment on musical ability, not a reference to a fondness for young boys). So to title a song "5150" sort of leads one away from any clarity in the matter, and in fact is certainly contradictory.

    Are there any published interviews out there with Hagar expounding upon his lyrics? Perhaps that would shed some light on things.
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    maybe im crazy, or just too high, but i thought "inside" was more a dig at dave...?

 

 

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