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    LONDON (Reuters) - British singer Bryan Ferry apologized on Monday for remarks he made in an interview with a German newspaper in which he praised Nazi iconography as "just amazing" and "really beautiful."



    The 61-year-old lead singer of Roxy Music told Germany's Welt Am Sonntag newspaper last month: "The way that the Nazis staged themselves and presented themselves, my Lord!"

    "I'm talking about the films of Leni Riefenstahl and the buildings of Albert Speer and the mass marches and the flags -- just fantastic. Really beautiful."

    In a statement, Ferry said he was "deeply upset" about the negative publicity the interview triggered, and added:

    "I apologize unreservedly for any offence caused by my comments on Nazi iconography, which were solely made from an art history perspective.

    "I, like every right-minded individual, find the Nazi regime, and all it stood for, evil and abhorrent."

    Jewish leaders in Britain, some of whom had condemned Ferry's comments and questioned whether he should be dropped by the Marks & Spencer retail chain that employs him as a model, welcomed Ferry's clarification.

    "We do welcome the fact that he has issued a swift comment that there was no intention to condone the Nazi regime," said Jeremy Newmark, chief executive of the Jewish Leadership Council.

    "Nevertheless, his choice of language was deeply insensitive," he added.

    Lord Greville Janner, vice-president of the World Jewish Congress, told Reuters: "His apology was total, appropriate and absolutely necessary. I hope that he will never make the same mistake again."

    Marks & Spencer sought to distance itself from the row.

    "We do not make comment on the private lives of any individuals that we work with nor does our commercial relationship with them mean we endorse any views they may hold," the group said in a statement. It had no further comment.

    Riefenstahl was Adolf Hitler's official film maker who was both admired and condemned for her documentaries that pioneered film techniques but glorified Nazism.

    Speer was an architect who served under Hitler.
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    What great Albert Speer buildings? One of the most unremarkable and overstated architects of all time if you ask me. He knew how to throw a rally but hardly an architect with great achievements.
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    It's the old, "Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism is bad" fallacy. No one is allowed to say that anything about Germany during this time period had any value, which is a shame. We do the same here in the US with the antebellum south to an extent.

    The Nazis had some of the best looking uniforms ever. Oh no! Now I logically must go kill Jews. Pathetic.
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    Nazis had the best uniforms and were the best bad guys ever. Or do you think Spielberg could have made "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" without them?

    And no, I will not apologise to the World Jewish Congress for thinking so. Simply appreciating something like a uniform or a building is by no means an endorsement of the policies of those who wear or occupy them.
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    More of the same old shit. Everyone's a victim. Cry me a fucking river. I think these old sayings could go on for awhile...... Nah! They'll probably be banned by the time I am finished typing this.
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    Where's these two???





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    Quote Originally Posted by fast98dodge View Post
    Where's these two???





    OH YEAH... They're still stirring up shit about Imus...
    ........or........gathering up their jackboots and heading for Hymie town.
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    After the "Hymie town" statement, Jackson tends to keep a low profile in semitic matters.
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    I wanna know where they are when Louis farrakhan goes on his rants about the white race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonG5150 View Post
    I wanna know where they are when Louis farrakhan goes on his rants about the white race.
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    I wanna know where they are when Louis farrakhan goes on his rants about the white race.
    That would be black on black criticism.


    Say what you will about his methodology, yet at least Farrakhan incites black youth to hold some semblance of pride, dignity and respect for themselves, rather than blaming the failings of their lives on white guys who in no way have any effect on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    That would be black on black criticism.


    Say what you will about his methodology, yet at least Farrakhan incites black youth to hold some semblance of pride, dignity and respect for themselves, rather than blaming the failings of their lives on white guys who in no way have any effect on them.

    It's pretty funny, but you know the world has turned upside down when Farrakhan comes out of any situation looking sane and reasonable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCJanko View Post
    It's the old, "Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism is bad" fallacy. No one is allowed to say that anything about Germany during this time period had any value, which is a shame. We do the same here in the US with the antebellum south to an extent.

    The Nazis had some of the best looking uniforms ever. Oh no! Now I logically must go kill Jews. Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Nazis had the best uniforms and were the best bad guys ever. Or do you think Spielberg could have made "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" without them?

    And no, I will not apologise to the World Jewish Congress for thinking so. Simply appreciating something like a uniform or a building is by no means an endorsement of the policies of those who wear or occupy them.
    Thanks I really appreciate that... Especially when I have family who lived through the holocaust and its uniforms are the symbol of the destruction of Jewish Europe. Spielberg didn't choose them because the uniforms were "pretty" but rather for what they represented I am almost certain of. It is like me saying you know what I really appreciate the work that Cho guy did in his writings and plays, but I certainly do not endorse his actions of murdering 33 college students at VT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonian View Post
    Thanks I really appreciate that... Especially when I have family who lived through the holocaust and its uniforms are the symbol of the destruction of Jewish Europe. Spielberg didn't choose them because the uniforms were "pretty" but rather for what they represented I am almost certain of. It is like me saying you know what I really appreciate the work that Cho guy did in his writings and plays, but I certainly do not endorse his actions of murdering 33 college students at VT.
    Yes, you have an emotional as well as biological link to the issues and actions of Germany leading up to and during WWII. Quite frankly, I'm not about to get into a semantics discussion or start splitting hairs about a man's thoughts and his actions, no matter how reprehensible those actions are/were with someone that has such a bond.

    I have absolutely zero firsthand knowledge of the horrors that occurred in that period of time, only what my father and my uncle have related to me and what has been learned (by most) through books, television, ect. As such, the distance provided by that abscence of accountabilty offers me a freedom from conscience that you will never experience.

    I'm not being cavalier in this. I'm pointing out that my appreciation of a cut of clothing or building design has absolutely nothing to do with you. If you must take such statements as a personal slap in the face, remember that was not the intention in the first place.

    And yes, it is indeed possible to admire one's writings or other works, even when the character of the artist comes into question, or moreso is downright subhuman.

    As I said, one must distance one's self to find any objectivity in this, an option that life has not given you. I mean no malice toward you in the least in this. I apologise only in regarding what emotional toll my thoughts on the subject have given you, not for having held them in the first place.
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