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    Default Grammarians, wordsmiths, etymologists (nerd thread?)

    Hey all:

    Graeme and I enjoyed a good grammar debate in another thread, and a few others joined the fun, so I thought maybe the topic deserves a place of its own.

    I'm unsure how the conversation will go, but I'll start things off with a few language issues people abuse most often.

    The contraction for "you are" is "you're."

    The contraction for "it is" is "it's."

    Example: "You're asking for trouble with a thread like this. You're sure to have your ass handed to you."

    Example: "Why do you say that? It's the best thread of its kind."

    Have any others? Jump in with the rest of us nerds!

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    Ain't ain't a word because ain't ain't in the dictionary.
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    ha ha ha ha! You just addressed my two biggest pet peeves in that first post.
    Put down the Cheetos, log off Mr. Skin, stop arguing like a bunch of old ladies, and GO OUTSIDE!

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    how about unnecessary apostrophe's when all you want is the plural form's of the word's?

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    An interesting one I discovered the other day is the word "agnostic."

    In most cases, people use it to describe those who believe there is no proof of God's existence, yet who do not deny the possibility of God's existence. Yet the word's origin is much broader based, and it technically can describe a person's lack of understanding about any subject.

    Such as, "Isn't TiVo the greatest?"

    If you've never seen TiVo, you correctly can respond, "I don't know. I'm agnostic."

    Try it on your friends. See what kinds of looks they give you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darthadv View Post
    how about unnecessary apostrophe's when all you want is the plural form's of the word's?
    Those folk's didn't pay attention in English classe's.

    Good call.

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    "You done gone an' done it now"
    "They has been well funny"
    "I can't get no...." (OK it's the Stones...)


    aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhh


    te5150, I am going to find a link to a David Beckham interview, just for you, to see how gloriously the English language can be mangled.

    Pure art.

    I told you what i do for a living , and this is the truth, so I will tell you now: I videotaped a Becks interview and took it into my class (complete with transcript) for them to find the grammatical errors. Learning by understanding mistakes blah blah....

    It was, as they say, fucking hilarious.

    "Sir, Is he English then?"

    "Er, like, you know, I reckon, you know, that, erm, whatever, yeah, guess, might be, you know what I mean"

    Ambassador for the sport my fucking arse.

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    Dude youdda be playing soccer since 4 you'd speak just like him.



    I prefer to spell right and use a proper grammar most of the times, but text/IM english sometimes takes over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterlessIceness View Post
    Dude youdda be playing soccer since 4 you'd speak just like him.



    I prefer to spell right and use a proper grammar most of the times, but text/IM english sometimes takes over.
    Even if he was a student athlete his entire life, the word "student" is in there somewhere. You'd think a few rules would have sunk into his skull.

    As for the texting, instant message and Internet shorthand, I predict they will be the downfall of the written word. Someday, complete senteces will go way of the wagon wheel. That's a shame, too, because crafting a vibrant and effective sentence is hard. In a generation or two, it will be impossible, I fear. Alas, the same probably was said about the wagon wheel 100 years ago.

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    OK te5150, I couldn't find the interview i was after but, just for everyone's amusement, here is Ali G interviewing the unholy couple.

    Ali G has cleverly spoofed UK slang to the extent that most thickos couldn't tell the difference but there actually are English people that speak this way.

    Also, regardless of most people's opnions of this over-exposed hyper celeb couple, at least they do have a self-deprecating sense of humour.

    Basically, this is pretty funny:



    ps. Footie fans actually did sing that song on the terraces. So loud you could hear it word for word on the TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by te5150 View Post
    Even if he was a student athlete his entire life, the word "student" is in there somewhere. You'd think a few rules would have sunk into his skull.

    As for the texting, instant message and Internet shorthand, I predict they will be the downfall of the written word. Someday, complete senteces will go way of the wagon wheel. That's a shame, too, because crafting a vibrant and effective sentence is hard. In a generation or two, it will be impossible, I fear. Alas, the same probably was said about the wagon wheel 100 years ago.
    I'm with you on this one.

    George Orwell "1984". Basically, language will be diluted and slimmed down until people are unable to express their thoughts and feelings. Less room for subversion, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knuck View Post
    ha ha ha ha! You just addressed my two biggest pet peeves in that first post.
    DITTO!!! I'll add another one, however: their and they're. It drives me nuts when people can't use these two words correctly!

    OK, one more. "A lot" is 2 words!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ex: "I have a lot of patience with children. It's adults I lack patience with."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktgiles View Post
    DITTO!!! I'll add another one, however: their and they're. It drives me nuts when people can't use these two words correctly!

    OK, one more. "A lot" is 2 words!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ex: "I have a lot of patience with children. It's adults I lack patience with."
    You mean, "It's adults with whom I lack patience."

    Just kidding, Kristi! However, if you continue abusing exclamation point privileges, your rights will be revoked. Jeez, you use alot of them!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by te5150 View Post
    Even if he was a student athlete his entire life, the word "student" is in there somewhere. You'd think a few rules would have sunk into his skull.

    As for the texting, instant message and Internet shorthand, I predict they will be the downfall of the written word. Someday, complete senteces will go way of the wagon wheel. That's a shame, too, because crafting a vibrant and effective sentence is hard. In a generation or two, it will be impossible, I fear. Alas, the same probably was said about the wagon wheel 100 years ago.
    Meh I doubt that, texts and instant messengers would be gone before anything happens to written language. I know loads of IM/MSN teenagers who want and do speak properly, I know tons of adults who simply can't

 

 

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