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    Default mike anthony conspiracy theory.

    I'm going waaaaaaaaaaaay out there with this intereting topic that has been stirring in my mind for a bit. Not that I think it may be true or anything but a what if type of thing. If thinking came after reading that old ass interview with Ed from 82.

    Maybe Mike was really a leech that just enjoyed the popularity and money that came with being Van Halen. So what if the nice guy and loyal to the fans personality that is displayed by Mike is what kept him in the band for so long? The fans would be in an uproar if Mike was kicked out and replaced because he was the nice guy.

    Now maybe Ed just finally had enough and said screw what the fans care and finally off'ed Mike just before the 04 tour. But Mike is still smileing. Is it because he knows he can still do what he wants now that he has an established hot sauce and a drinking buddy(Sam) to tour with ever now and then?

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    I didn't notice a new mike only forum. Move this thread there if you guys can. thnaks.
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    Mikey is the coolest man alive. I'm sure he's relieved that he doesn't have the pressure of being in VH now. He can do whatever he wants without having to worry about being told what to do. I bet that he'll be back in one day, even if just for a while. I just don't feel that he's really out for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuBBs5150 View Post
    Now maybe Ed just finally had enough and said screw what the fans care
    I'll agree with this part but the rest is way out there.

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    It wouldn't matter if MA was a bass prodigy...with Ed's ego and need for song control, MA didn't have a say. In the early days, VH songs were about DLR and Ed...wasn't much room left for MA to shine, except his harmonies. MA will be missed for his personality and vocals, not bass. It's not that MA is a leech...it's because Ed's a prodigy that needs complete control and only his blood line is good enough for him.

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    It's always been my belief that in the early days MA came up with his own bass lines for the songs. It wasn't until "1984" that EVH began to dominate the overall making of Van Halen's albums.

    Mike went with the flow, and in the following years his role in the band became more and more diminished until EVH probably came up with ninety percent of what Mike wound up playing on the albums.

    If MA got lazy, it might have been because Eddie benched him.

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    Let me add my 2 cents. And I'm speaking only of bass playing, not Mike's other contributions of essential vocals for the Van Halen "sound," as well as his stage performance and energy.

    Lets assume that the FW album is an example of 100% Mike's bass effort there.

    I feel the bass playing on that album is exactly what each track needed. Its perfect, and it contributes strongly while letting the guitar shine on up front. Its up front, deep and punchy, and completely supports the structure of the songs very well. A great foundation for the rhythm.

    Now if Mike let Eddie tell him what to do from that point on, then clearly he decided to what he felt he had to in order to remain part of the band.

    Its too bad, really, since that probably reinforced Eddie's opinion of Mike at the same time it allowed Mike to step away from the compositional aspect and let Eddie do it. And the bass went downhill from FW, in my opinion.

    Thats the bad feedback loop right there. If Mike stood up to Eddie about the bass compositions in the late 80's, would he have remained with the band? I think it was a Catch-22 for him.

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    I have read that Ed played a lot of the bass tracks on the old VH albums too but who knows the truth? Back in the day in articles VH would say they'd record most of it live and Ed would only overdub some guitar parts and solos. That would suggest Mike played it all.
    *shrug*


    No way was MS a leech. How can you even consider that? It has come out that ED wanted to replace MA since back in the day because MA wasn't at the same level of talent and in a way held back or limited what was possible musically. I'm not sure I buy that 100% either.

    Either way MA has been a rock in VH since they started out. I've never met the guy but have read many times how down to earth and approachable he is. One of the most humble members of the bad who has always been cool to the fans. His Vocals have become a part of the VH sound as is his presence in the band and on stage.

    I think as ED has gotten older he's become more of a control freak and in some ways has become petty. The problems he's had with Sam and Mike are just immature imo. Sure EVH IS VH. withought Ed there is no band but you can't erase what the other members have added to the chemistry. Theyre blood and sweat invested into the band. Any standup guy would let his bass player plug his little hot sauce after being in the band over 25 years. I love Ed but if that and the "Other Half" is the main reason Mike is out then Ed is out of control in that regard. Mike has been a good soldier all these years putting up with a lot of BS and defneding most of the bizarre decisions of Ed's and he can't sell hot sauce? Ed's the man but he needs to be more spiritual and less drunk. Hurts to say it but it's true.
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    Eddie is just jealous of Mikey's fan connection.
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    i dont think ed was aware of the fan connection until the big uproar over mikes absence. ed cant be doin it for the money man,80% of the people who used to admire , respect, connect with him now hate, loath,bash him.makes no sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuBBs5150 View Post
    I'm going waaaaaaaaaaaay out there with this intereting topic that has been stirring in my mind for a bit. Not that I think it may be true or anything but a what if type of thing. If thinking came after reading that old ass interview with Ed from 82.

    Maybe Mike was really a leech that just enjoyed the popularity and money that came with being Van Halen. So what if the nice guy and loyal to the fans personality that is displayed by Mike is what kept him in the band for so long? The fans would be in an uproar if Mike was kicked out and replaced because he was the nice guy.

    Now maybe Ed just finally had enough and said screw what the fans care and finally off'ed Mike just before the 04 tour. But Mike is still smileing. Is it because he knows he can still do what he wants now that he has an established hot sauce and a drinking buddy(Sam) to tour with ever now and then?

    I've been up all night. Damn jack hammers outside my window.
    Ed used to be the nice guy too so I don't buy the theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blount5150 View Post
    It wouldn't matter if MA was a bass prodigy...with Ed's ego and need for song control, MA didn't have a say.
    Um, no actually. MA didnt HAVE anything to say. Ed was the songwriter because he was the only one talented enough to write great songs. They are his songs and yet the rest of the band own copyright to them, how BS is that? So dont give me that crap about Ed being controling and a bad guy.

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    Uh most NORMAL bands who grew up battling in the trenches to get famous give writing credit to all members. Only asshole egomaniacs don't. And nobody really knows how VH songs came together anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    And nobody really knows how VH songs came together anyway.
    THAT is a good point. Everyone automatically assumes Al and Mike had no input whatsoever and were only told what to do.

    I've never been in a band, but my buddies that have, tell me it's usually a collaborative, give and take, brainstorming free-for-all suggestion sort of process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Uh most NORMAL bands who grew up battling in the trenches to get famous give writing credit to all members. Only asshole egomaniacs don't. And nobody really knows how VH songs came together anyway.
    Oh sorry, I completely forgot... David Lee Roth DID teach Ed some of Eruption.

 

 

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