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    Default Bob Lefsetz Email -- a good read

    Bob Lefsetz is a music biz veteran who sends out emails ranting and raving about all sorts of subjects concerning pop/rock music.

    Today's edition is a great read on the Mighty VH.

    Enjoy!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



    I don't fire up the big stereo much anymore.



    Maybe the music got small, maybe I love the easy access on my computer, but
    the acquisition of a killer stereo used to be the primary goal of an
    adolescent male. It came before the girlfriend, never mind the automobile
    and the house.



    You used to go to the record store, come home with a bag of records, slit
    the sleeve, grasp the record by the edges and place it upon the turntable.
    And when you dropped the needle this harmonious sound emerged, one that
    instantly made the world ALL RIGHT!



    Oh, you remember the first time you heard the intro of "Gimmie Shelter".
    Hell, they don't even EMPLOY that kind of subtlety anymore. Some exec
    somewhere would say there's not TIME, that we live in an instant
    gratification society. I say if that's so, how come kids can play the same
    fucking video game for twelve hours straight? ADD generation, bite my ass.



    The ritual continued even with the advent of the CD. We were scammed into
    believing it was perfect sound forever. Eventually we learned it was
    compromised brittle sound, and the discs you didn't want for long, certainly
    not the new stuff, which NEVER came out on vinyl. But some of those earlier
    tracks, we liked the clarity of CDs, we wanted to hear elements obscured by
    decades of dust, by tonearms too heavy for the vinyl, by records overplayed
    into oblivion.



    And then there was the VOLUME! You didn't have to worry about squeezing the
    notes onto a flexible disc that might freak out and bounce the needle. No,
    with CDs you could LOAD IT UP! You could get a volume heretofore unknown.
    Frequently sans not only subtlety, but bass. Yet these newly-remastered
    classics on CD, you could crank them to such a volume that they squeezed out
    EVERYTHING else. At least that's what I found with Van Halen's "Best Of
    Volume 1".



    I had to own the debut. Really, is a collection complete without "Runnin'
    With The Devil"?



    But that original disc, it was WORSE than the vinyl. As a matter of fact,
    they might have used the same EQ. It's almost unlistenable.



    But this first greatest hits album, arriving free in the mail via Bob Merlis
    in late 1996, this was something else. This was all cleaned up. This was a
    way to make fourth quarter MONEY!



    The disc begins with "Eruption", and then goes into "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout
    Love". How many times did I hear that on L.A. radio? It sounded dark and
    dirty, like the clubs Van Halen paid their dues in.



    Then the apotheosis, the aforementioned "Runnin' With The Devil". Arriving
    like a freight train, right through the JBL speakers, each one of which was
    larger than the complete STEREO of a member of the younger generation.
    There was a level of satisfaction in this new disc that I hadn't gotten
    previously. I felt like that guy in the Maxell ad, with his hair blown
    back, with lines around him like an R. Crumb character.



    Next came "Dance The Night Away". OH, the swagger of the intro, how does
    Eddie get that feel, that TONE! Sure, Dave's lyrics were more stupid than
    usual, and the backup vocals were too sixties cheesy, but there's a joy in
    this record absent from EVERY Justin Timberlake track. Van Halen didn't
    have to dance to get laid, didn't have to perfect its look. The sound ALONE
    was enough to get girls to unzip their pants. THAT'S the power of rock and
    roll. You don't have to rap and tell the girls they're whores and should
    submit, you've just got to RIP and the babes want to come in your bus.



    And I'm enjoying the CD, and then I HEARD something.



    Imagine your Spanish teacher freaking out, right in front of the class.
    You've got a test, it's in a fucking FOREIGN LANGUAGE, and you haven't
    studied. And you're dreaming if only ALIENS inhabited this woman, took her
    away, you'd be saved. Well, that's what happens in the intro to "And The
    Cradle Will Rock..."



    This one I wasn't that familiar with, I didn't own the album, it wasn't
    played endlessly on the radio. Oh, of course I KNEW it, it just wasn't in
    my DNA, it wasn't imprinted on my brain. But suddenly, INSTANTLY, it was.
    I felt like I was fifteen again, living in my parents' house, RAILING
    AGAINST THE WORLD!



    You don't have to live with the 'rents to feel oppressed. Hell, all you've
    got to do is turn on the TV. There you'll find people better looking than
    yourself, winning at this phony game we call America. You turn, you look
    for your world.



    Today said world is so obscure, so irrelevant, that most can't relate to it.
    Sure, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah may have a career, but I won't even bother to
    print all the e-mail stating that their music SUCKS, that they're
    amateurish, second-rate. Why does indie too often mean SHITTY? I'm waiting
    for the GREAT shit to be indie. "And The Cradle Will Rock..." is great
    shit.



    Oh, it's not for everyone. I played the track in my car one night on a
    first date and it was promptly over. The woman covered her ears, she lost
    her cool, she liked me, but not THIS MUCH!



    Yes, our music used to draw a line. Were you WITH US or AGAINST US! Rap
    did this to great effect, for a while, before it became a joke.



    Then again, Van Halen was ALWAYS kind of a joke. That's why we loved the
    band so much. Eddie was as talented as they come, and Michael and Alex were
    more than serviceable. But what about this Jim Dandyesque front man, DAVID
    LEE ROTH? With the karate kicks, with the over the top lyrics.



    He was straight out of the Catskills, via Pasadena. He was a tummler, a Jew
    who didn't worry about convention, who seemed to be walking a fine line,
    between seriousness and FUCKING WITH US! He had personality. And we're
    drawn to characters. American Idols are not characters, otherwise you can't
    WIN, you've got to play by the rules!



    There are no rules in rock and roll.



    There are too many rules in society, too many games. And every once in a
    while I get overloaded and the only thing that gets me through, squeezes out
    all the bad feelings, all the frustration, is MUSIC! Records like "And The
    Cradle Will Rock..."



    I was driving to Rhino, I had two podcasts planned. But enduring a phone
    call from someone who just didn't get me, I blew my top. Wanting to come
    through for someone, I insured I was going to LOOK BAD! Fuck, why couldn't
    I have just given her what she wanted, a couple of quotes, which she already
    had written in her head?



    I was so pissed off, I was bouncing off the walls of Warner's Burbank
    office. When I got into the studio, I had to be taken away, I had to hear a
    song, I had to hear "And The Cradle Will Rock..."



    You can hear the resulting podcast at:
    http://www.rhino.com/RZine/rhinocasts/index.lasso, or subscribe in iTunes
    (keyword: Rhino).



    Maybe I reveal too much of myself, maybe I swagger, maybe my voice goes too
    high, but this is what life and music do to me.



    (Meanwhile, that old quote, "to thine own's self be true", always rules.
    That ultimate article? I looked like a prince, I was quoted before James
    Taylor. Sacrifice your identity, give them what you think they want at your
    peril.)



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    Pretty good. And he's dead on the mark regarding "Clap Your Hands Say Yeah". Their music blows chunks all over the dashboard. (Picked it up for free from the library. I still feel screwed.)
    "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
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    the podcast is way cool...he reminds me of Penn Gilette.

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    Interesting read.
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    'He was straight out of the Catskills, via Pasadena. He was a tummler, a Jew
    who didn't worry about convention, who seemed to be walking a fine line,
    between seriousness and FUCKING WITH US!'

    That right there was bad ass!
    "It's always a Catch-22 situation. They hate you if you're the same, and they hate you if you're different."
    ~Eddie Van Halen~

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    ~David Lee Roth~

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    Which one of the soon to be 15 geatest hits is he writing about? Is he aware that a new one is coming out soon?
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    I love this quote:

    Van Halen didn't
    have to dance to get laid, didn't have to perfect its look. The sound ALONE
    was enough to get girls to unzip their pants. THAT'S the power of rock and
    roll. You don't have to rap and tell the girls they're whores and should
    submit, you've just got to RIP and the babes want to come in your bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    Which one of the soon to be 15 geatest hits is he writing about? Is he aware that a new one is coming out soon?
    doesn't he work for rhino? isn't rhino putting out the next "bovbobw vol 17?"

    viral marketing i think...still good podcast/article

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    THis is the stuff we used to be able to shred about back in the day..
    Someone would say how bad-ass this band was or that band..all we had to say was Van Fucking Halen and they instantly knew they were defeated!!!

    THAT is reason enough to go see this tour, whether its still there or not!

    How many chicks pants did the blazing sound coming from the speakers unzip FOR you?
    We all owe the Mighty VH, now known as CVH- lest we make any mistakes in unintended perception, for the chicks!! We OWE them !
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    That was a great read! I got hooked on Van Halen back in 1979. I never heard anything like it before, and still have not. You will never see or hear another band which such swagger and domination! They destroyed any band in their path with no apologies. Not only were they better, but they knew they were better. That is why I Love Van Halen.

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    THAT was the best read I have saw in quite a while! DEAD ON!!!

    I wonder about what my kids listen to today. Do they ever get that fuck yeah moment when they put in a cd. My eldest son loves my music and I am so glad of that. He has already asked to go see =VH= this summer and I will oblige! Like it or not, this will probably be the only time possible. Think back when you were young and missed the real deal and how it would have made you feel to see them if someone would have dragged you to see them.

    We can debate this Mike thing all day and get nowhere and I think it does stink myself, but it is as close to the true fire as we will ever get, unless my hunch is true and Mike indeed does join them later in the tour.

    Way off topic, but think about this. How many of these bands were very very young when they started out. Wolfgang (sp) is young, but no younger than other kids that started great bands. Yes, he is replacing the irreplaceable and that isn't the point, but you get my drift.

    Ok back on topic!!
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    so there's fitting liner notes for the new "best of!"


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    It clearly says that it's about the Best Of Vol 1 released in 1996.

    And I'm curious about one thing. Maybe the real old timers on this time got more luck in the 1970's and early 1980s, but I was born in 1972, and I am willing to confess that I didn't bang a single chick solely becoz of VH. Don't feel sorry for me, I had plenty of play, but not becoz of the Mighty. Actually I have met very very few chicks who are huge fans of VH (I'm talking in real life, not on these boards). And the sex of posters on this site supports what I'm saying - the ratio of guys to girls is about 9 to 1. To me the legend of VH, God among the ladies is just that, a legend. Doesn't make me like them any less, though.

    I'd like to know the "vh bang" count for posters on this site. How many chicks did u bang becoz of VH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    How many chicks did u bang becoz of VH?
    I don't need no steenkeeng Van Halen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfiddl View Post
    I don't need no steenkeeng Van Halen!
    i got by on personality!

 

 

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