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    Default Playing Guitar thru Stage Snake

    I am a band's guitar player and soundman.

    For a sound check, I would like to be able to sit out by the soundboard, play my guitar thru the snake, and up into my effects unit that I normally plug my guitar into. My snake has XLR returns.

    Here is what I think I need, but I not uncertain, because I am electrically mentally challenged when it comes to impedance stuff.


    Guitar output jack ( me sitting by the soundboard )
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    V
    Converter - 1/4" HiZ to LoZ with male XLR end
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    V
    XLR cable
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    V
    Snake's return female XLR jack ( by the soundboard )
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    V
    Snake's return male XLR jack ( on the stage )
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    V
    XLR cable
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    V
    Converter - Female XLR end to 1/4" LoZ to HiZ
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    V
    1/4" input jack of my guitar effects unit ( I usually plug my guitar directly into this on stage )



    If I am making this more complicated than is necessary, please let me know.

    Thanks

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    should work, but it would be like using a 100' cord, it could affect your sound... could also heat up your amp quick because of all the resistance.

    if it is a short snake, then should be ok. just dont do it very long to be safe.

    I always liked to hear the mix, because our sound man was a rookie.
    but I was wireless.
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    Here's a more simple approach... I'm guessing your main goal is to hear how you sound coming out of your mains. Take one of your monitor feeds and plug the soundboard end into your guitar and the stage end into amp or effects chain.

    You'll have a little bit of signal loss due to the length of cable but it should be enough signal to ballpark your sound. I'd probably just go conservative on the level setting knowing that you'll be pushing a stronger signal when live.

    If it's just a few minutes to dial in your sound I wouldn't worry about heating up your amp or anything... your main concern there is output impedance matching up with speaker impedance for a tube amp... solid state... no worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm40 View Post
    If I am making this more complicated than is necessary, please let me know.

    Thanks
    Go wireless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey Metalhead View Post
    should work, but it would be like using a 100' cord, it could affect your sound... could also heat up your amp quick because of all the resistance.

    if it is a short snake, then should be ok. just dont do it very long to be safe.

    I always liked to hear the mix, because our sound man was a rookie.
    but I was wireless.
    why not have someone else play through your rig while you stand out front and get your sound right??

    or am i missing the point
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommywho5150 View Post
    why not have someone else play through your rig while you stand out front and get your sound right??

    or am i missing the point
    The sound changes as the night goes on during a gig....

    Singers tend to sing louder after the first song of each set, and I need to turn the trim down on the vocal channels.

    Instrument players tend to "turn up" as their ears get burned in.

    As the club fills up, the extra bodies soak up the sound, thus the need to crank up the mains and adjust the EQ.

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    Is there a reason you have not considered to go wireless? Sound quality is very high nowadays, you can't tell the difference between the cable and the wireless. Of course don't buy a 50$ unit
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommywho5150 View Post
    why not have someone else play through your rig while you stand out front and get your sound right??

    or am i missing the point
    for me, someone else playing my guitar, sounds nothing like me playing it.
    I pick very hard.

    I agree, go wireless, lots of cheap options these days.
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    What is the "cheapest" and good (doesn't have to be the best) wireless unit that you guys would recommend?

    I play in small to medium size clubs. I would never be more than 100ft from my guitar rig.

 

 

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