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    Default cop kills man stabbing his mom (With a fork!)

    San Antonio Express-News ^ | 08/31/2006 | Roger Croteau
    Posted on 08/31/2006 5:54:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd


    SAN MARCOS — A police officer here shot and killed a 19-year-old man Wednesday as the man sat on his mother's chest, stabbing her with a dinner fork, in the street outside their home.

    The woman, Rosita Pineda, called police at about 10:45 a.m. and told the dispatcher that her son, Christopher Gonzales, was acting strangely and was armed with a butter knife.

    When officer Tracy Frans arrived at the house in the 1000 block of Gravel Street, he saw Gonzales in the street, holding a fork to his mother's neck, said San Marcos Police Chief Howard Williams.

    Williams said Frans called for backup and drew his Glock .40-caliber semiautomatic handgun. He said Gonzales and Pineda fell to the ground, or Gonzales pulled her to the ground, and then got on top of his mother, who was already bloody from being stabbed.

    "The officer said, 'Drop the fork or I'll shoot,'" Williams said. "Then he started stabbing his mother in the throat again and the officer fired one shot."

    Gonzales was struck in the chest and died around noon at Central Texas Medical Center.

    Frans was placed on administrative leave while the incident is investigated and presented to a grand jury, which is standard procedure.

    About a half-dozen people were gathered on the porch of Pineda's home Wednesday afternoon, but they declined to comment.

    Williams said he did not know what started the family altercation and that, so far, the shooting appeared justified.

    "He felt like he was going to kill the mother if he did not intervene," Williams said of Frans. "I would expect the family to be angry with us, but at the same time I feel the officer acted appropriately to protect the mother. The officer did not create the situation, Mr. Gonzales did."

    Pineda was taken to Central Texas Medical Center, but declined treatment. Gonzales' two older brothers also received minor injuries scuffling with him before police arrived, but they also declined treatment.

    Williams said he did not know if Frans was armed with a stun gun or pepper spray.

    "But he is not going to take the time to switch weapons while there is a stabbing going on," he said.

    He said Frans was "pretty shook up over the fact that he shot someone, but he seems to be doing OK."

    Gonzales was arrested in 2005 on a family violence charge and earlier this year on charges of theft and evading arrest, Williams said.

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    Props to the Police Officer

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    That's a forked up story...

    ..sorry 'bout that, couldn't resist.

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    again, justice served. good on the cop!
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    How fucked up do you have to be to stab your mother in the neck with a fork?!

    Oh well, I'll bet he never does that again.
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    Better then using a spoon, I guess
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    "There is no spoon"

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    "The officer said, 'Drop the fork or I'll shoot,'" Williams said.

    Just like he was taught at the academy. Nice job Mahoney!

    The ribbing this guy is gonna get at work will be unbelievable.

    And how embarrassing is it that later in this cops career, when sitting around bullshitting with other retired cops that he has to tell them his only kill involved a guy with an eating utensil.

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    What kind of person stabs their own mother? And with a fork of all things?

    That's effed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_atomic_punks_rule
    And how embarrassing is it that later in this cops career, when sitting around bullshitting with other retired cops that he has to tell them his only kill involved a guy with an eating utensil.
    Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd just wish that nor him neither the rest of retired cops wouldn't have any other kills on their account. Reality check though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterlessIceness
    Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd just wish that nor him neither the rest of retired cops wouldn't have any other kills on their account. Reality check though..

    I'm afraid for this to happen you'd have to outlaw forks altogether - which is definately not possible. Forks Kill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterlessIceness
    Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd just wish that nor him neither the rest of retired cops wouldn't have any other kills on their account. Reality check though..

    Oh geez, where would one begin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatie
    I'm afraid for this to happen you'd have to outlaw forks altogether - which is definately not possible. Forks Kill!
    Dude, forks don't kill, people that use the forks kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_atomic_punks_rule
    Oh geez, where would one begin....
    Nowhere to begin - read his first post. What - you're happy that it's necessary for cops to kill? He didn't say the cop was wrong, he's expressing his disappointment at the necessity, or at least the wish that it wasn't.

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    ^ exactly what I've meant. But it's just not happening, as long as there are people who feel a need to stabb their mothers with forks

 

 

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