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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    I have no doubt that is what happened. Nothing else makes sense. and given the police and prosecutors office let the public know that there was no killer out there to worry about and their refusal to prosecute even given an indictment, I also have no doubt that people in the highest levels of this investigation KNOW what happened. Knowing what happened, knowing that they could not prosecute the kid, and knowing that making this public would just destroy the family, led them to turn a blind eye on the ridiculous cover up the family concocted. They couldn't prosecute a 9 year old boy, and they didn't want to prosecute the parents for obstruction because they saw that the cover up was pathetic, really.


    I believe the mom made the kid some pineapple and milk (yuck) and went up to pack. The boy was eating it at the table when the little princess came down and snatched some out of the bowl. He had a bad temper, Patsy said so herself, and he chased her down to their playroom and grabbed the first thing he could get his hands on and whacked her. When she fell on the floor he couldn't believe it and thats when he poked her with the train track. when she didn't respond, he ran back to his room and jumped under the covers until Patsy started screaming about the girl being missing. They searched the house and when they found her she was obviously dead and they put it all together. That would have given them from around 10 pm to 5;30 to figure out how to stage the scene.

    but that is where it gets weird for me. no matter how much you want to protect your son, how can any parent tie a rope around their daughters neck and tighten it? I just can't see that. Truth is that there are so many screwed up aspects of this case from letting John move the body to interviews that didn't happen in a timely fashion to missed opportunities for forensic testing that there will never be a nice neat resolution to this case. There will always be weird unexplainable things....and I think that is the way the Ramseys wanted it.


    my one real take away from this? What parent would have permitted their child to participate in this investigation by whacking a mannequin head with a flashlight?.....that kid seemed much too happy to do it too!
    Alot of kids have tempers. I doubt he was the first 9 year old to strike his/her little sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    I have no doubt that is what happened. Nothing else makes sense. and given the police and prosecutors office let the public know that there was no killer out there to worry about and their refusal to prosecute even given an indictment, I also have no doubt that people in the highest levels of this investigation KNOW what happened. Knowing what happened, knowing that they could not prosecute the kid, and knowing that making this public would just destroy the family, led them to turn a blind eye on the ridiculous cover up the family concocted. They couldn't prosecute a 9 year old boy, and they didn't want to prosecute the parents for obstruction because they saw that the cover up was pathetic, really.


    I believe the mom made the kid some pineapple and milk (yuck) and went up to pack. The boy was eating it at the table when the little princess came down and snatched some out of the bowl. He had a bad temper, Patsy said so herself, and he chased her down to their playroom and grabbed the first thing he could get his hands on and whacked her. When she fell on the floor he couldn't believe it and thats when he poked her with the train track. when she didn't respond, he ran back to his room and jumped under the covers until Patsy started screaming about the girl being missing. They searched the house and when they found her she was obviously dead and they put it all together. That would have given them from around 10 pm to 5;30 to figure out how to stage the scene.

    but that is where it gets weird for me. no matter how much you want to protect your son, how can any parent tie a rope around their daughters neck and tighten it? I just can't see that. Truth is that there are so many screwed up aspects of this case from letting John move the body to interviews that didn't happen in a timely fashion to missed opportunities for forensic testing that there will never be a nice neat resolution to this case. There will always be weird unexplainable things....and I think that is the way the Ramseys wanted it.


    my one real take away from this? What parent would have permitted their child to participate in this investigation by whacking a mannequin head with a flashlight?.....that kid seemed much too happy to do it too!
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    EXCLUSIVE: 'I killed JonBenét Ramsey!’ Convicted pedophile Gary Oliva has confessed to the murder of six-year-old pageant princess in prison letters to his friend – claiming it was 'an accident'

    Gary Oliva, 54, has long been a suspect in the murder of JonBenét Ramsey, whose body was found at her home in Boulder, Colorado on December 26, 1996

    In letters to high school classmate Michael Vail obtained by DailyMailTV, Oliva claims he killed JonBenét by accident

    'I let her slip and her head bashed in half and I watched her die. It was an accident,' he wrote from Limon Correctional Facility, Colorado

    Oliva is serving a 10-year-sentence for possessing child pornography

    When Oliva was arrested in 2016, police discovered he had 335 photos of JonBenét including photos from the six-year-old's autopsy

    Vail, 55, of Ventura, California, has urged police to charge Oliva for JonBenét's death since Oliva is due for parole in 2020

    Chillingly, Vail tells DailyMailTV that on December 26, 1996 Oliva told him: 'I hurt a little girl'

    Investigators believe several men were involved in JonBenét's death and Vail hopes Oliva will identify them

    The incriminating letters have been presented to Boulder police and murder case investigators are now looking through the new information

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    Not sure why we let men like him live.
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    He's like the 2nd or 3rd pedo that has confessed to killing her. Not buying it.
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    Yeah I think everyone's first reaction is skepticism given the history with this case, but the article makes a pretty compelling case if those facts are true. He lived a mile away at the time, he confessed to a friend that he hurt a little girl before it hit the news, etc.

    It doesn't really make sense, but I'm curious to see what the investigation brings out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Not sure why we let men like him live.
    Because the death penalty is cruel and inhumane. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood P. View Post
    Because the death penalty is cruel and inhumane. Right?
    Why is it that the same contingent that is against the death penalty is also typically "pro choice?"
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    EXCLUSIVE: Convicted pedophile who confessed to killing JonBenét Ramsey would make collages of little girls and then set them on fire reveals high school friend

    Michael Vail is speaking out about his childhood friend Gary Olivia in a episode on The Dr Oz Show set to air on Tuesday

    Olivia, 54, confessed to killing JonBenét Ramsey by accident and is currently serving a 10 years prison sentence on child pornography charges

    Vail reveals that Olivia has had an obsession with little girls ever since they were teenagers in a preview obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com

    'One time, he made this collage ... When I looked at his collage, it was all a little girls on it. I said, "You ruined your collage, you put little girls all over,"' said Vail

    He went on to reveal that Olivia would often burn these collages shortly after creating them, and become incredibly 'mad'

    In another clip, Vail revealed that Olivia spoke of wanting to eat JonBenét

    'He said he wanted to eat JonBenét,' says Grace.

    That is not the only alarming story to emerge however, with Vail telling one more secret about Olivia.

    'Gary would break into the University of Boulder Colorado. There was a skeleton in there and he wanted to taste what human bones would taste like,' says Vail.

    'So he tried biting the skeleton and he told me how disappointed it was that was covered with shellac, and he couldn't taste the bone.'

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    This guy sounds out of his mind. On the one hand, that's exactly the type of person you would expect that would be involved in a crime like this, but I think it also raises the possibility that the guy is simply deranged and he was so bought into the idea of wanting to be involved with her death that he's convinced himself he did it.
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