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    JonBenet murder suspect's DNA doesn't match

    BOULDER, Colo. (Reuters) - A DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr, the schoolteacher who claims to have been with child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey when she died in 1996, does not match DNA found in her underwear, a Denver TV station reported on Monday.

    KUSA-TV cited two unnamed sources in the report, which comes hours before Karr was due for his first Colorado court appearance. Amid skepticism over Karr's account, legal experts have said that a DNA match was critical to the prosecution case.

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    That was fast. Which sample, the one from Thailand or one taken in the U.S?
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    Here is a full article. No charges will be filed.


    Report: Karr's DNA doesn't match
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    BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- The DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr does not match DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was murdered in 1996, CNN affiliate KUSA is reporting.

    KUSA, based in Denver, Colorado, quoted two sources in a bulletin on its Web site:

    "9NEWS has confirmed from two sources that the DNA sample taken from John Mark Karr is not a match with the foreign DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body when she was murdered in 1996. 9NEWS has also learned the Boulder County District Attorney's office will not file charges against Karr in connection with the Ramsey case."

    CNN is working to independently confirm the report as Karr awaits his first court appearance in Colorado later Monday afternoon.

    Karr will appear before Judge Roxanne Bailin at 4:30 p.m. (6:30 p.m. ET).

    Earlier Monday, Karr's defense team requested that prosecutors hand over DNA evidence in the Ramsey case.

    Public disclosure of any DNA evidence was specifically barred by a gag order issued Friday. The order applies to all attorneys and law enforcement officials involved in the case. While the principals can discuss some aspects of the case, they are not allowed to say anything that could jeopardize Karr receiving a fair trial

    The order is necessary because of "the intense interest of the media in this matter and the amount of publicity that has resulted," Bailin wrote. "The court is concerned that the extensive participant and public comment will disrupt the processes by which a fair trial may be preserved."

    The 41-year-old suspect is being held in Boulder County Jail on suspicion of first-degree murder, first- and second-degree kidnapping, and sexual assault. No formal charges have been filed yet by Boulder prosecutors.

    Documents list Karr's birthplace as Conyers, Georgia, and his occupation as "teacher."

    On Thursday, Deputy State Public Defender Seth Temin said Karr qualifies as an indigent, and he will be defending him. Temin formally informed the court of the move in a filing Friday.

    Temin also filed a motion Friday asking the court to order any samples of Karr's handwriting to be sealed.

    "Counsel is without sufficient knowledge about all the facts of the case to be able to evaluate the prejudice that may be associated with release of any of the defendant's handwriting," Temin said in the written request.

    A handwritten ransom note from the Ramsey house could be part of a murder case.

    Bailin has ordered the Colorado State Public Defender's office not to release the arrest warrant application. The judge gave Temin until noon (2 p.m. ET) Monday to file a response on that issue.

    Karr was brought back to the United States from Bangkok, Thailand. He arrived in Colorado Thursday evening from California, where he skipped bail in 2001 after being charged in Sonoma County with five misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography.

    Karr appeared at a brief hearing in Los Angeles and waived extradition to Colorado. (Watch Patsy Ramsey's sister reveal what the family will do if Karr isn't guilty -- 4:11)

    Karr was arrested August 16 in Thailand in connection with the decade-old case.

    He told reporters in Thailand he was with JonBenet the night she died, and that her death was an accident. The child's beaten and strangled body was found December 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home.

    Autopsy results showed she had suffered a blow to the head and been strangled with a garrote tightened with a paintbrush handle.

    Several media outlets have filed a motion to unseal Karr's arrest warrant and supporting affidavit. In its response to the motion, the district attorney's office repeated several times that the investigation of Karr "is in its very early stages."

    Prosecutors agreed the arrest warrant should be unsealed but said that unsealing the supporting affidavit could taint the ongoing investigation, including interviews not yet conducted.

    "It is crucial that people we interview provide information that is as accurate as possible, unaffected by influences other than their own resources and their best recollections," the documents said.

    After Karr's statements in Thailand, questions have surfaced as to whether the slight, soft-spoken man could have been involved in the grisly killing.

    Earlier this year, Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado, alerted authorities to e-mails he had been receiving from a person now believed to be Karr.

    Tracey, who has produced a documentary about the Ramsey case, said there was something in the e-mails "that made me decide I had to try and do something." But he would not say just what prompted him to contact prosecutors.

    A law enforcement official told CNN that Karr's e-mails to Tracey were initially innocuous but that the professor contacted authorities when they became "weird." The communications were eventually tracked to Thailand.

    Tracey told CNN Thursday he also learned Karr's name five days before the arrest.
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    So much for the gag order. Jeez.
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    So, if the DNA is indeed a failure, then things have progressed absolutely nowhere, and the killer is still out there someplace.

    Oh, and the Boulder police once again look like incompetent bunglers. Serves them right for the self agrandising press conference. Next time, build a case first, then gloat.
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    I'm not familiar with law stuff, but I do know that you can't talk about a case that's under investigation. I know that much anyways.

    Guess it's a sight more than those folks handling this one.
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    Well, he got his 15 minutes of fame... We should now deport his ass back and let him serve prison time for whatever he did overseas... Fucking pre-op cumchugger...
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod
    Well, he got his 15 minutes of fame... We should now deport his ass back and let him serve prison time for whatever he did overseas... Fucking pre-op cumchugger...
    Here's the thing, evidently he didn't actually do anything in Thailand. You might want to sit down before you read this next part:

    Evidently there was a mistake in the initial reporting when he was picked up by the Thai police. He had applied for a job as a teacher but was fired because he was too strict, that's it.

    The press ran wild - again - on false information and by the time he was placed about that airplane we all thought he was banging nine year old gills by the truck load.

    This case has been plauged by this very problem from the beginning.
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    Always thought this was just too convenient and too weird.

    I still think the parents were at the very least involved in the little girl's death.
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    Any word on Sonoma County pursuing the misdameanor charges against him? Otherwise, he walks a free man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onefootoutthedoor
    Any word on Sonoma County pursuing the misdameanor charges against him? Otherwise, he walks a free man.

    Oh no....he's going nowhere. They're keeping his ass on ice until the extradition paperwork is filed. This fucker will do some time.
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    He's gotta do time somewhere just for lookin creepy.

    Bummer about the Ramsey case tho.
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