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    A Memorabilia Collection That Rocks
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    (CBS) It sounds more like something from the old West than modern day San Francisco.

    It was dusty. It was musty. It didn't smell real good.

    This is a true story about buried treasure. Deep in the basement of a non-descript warehouse, down a maze of back alleys, Bill Sagan discovered what amounts to a goldmine.

    "It was 25 feet high in height, below ground. Part of it was below ground," said Sagan. "And there were, I thought, hundreds of thousands of items that were in there. And truly there were millions of items."

    It was a rock-n-roll treasure trove--millions of original photographs, posters, documents and much more of forgotten artifacts from an unforgettable musical era.

    "We've been told that there exists no other trove of rock-n-roll history that is anywhere near the size of this anywhere else," said Sagan.

    To explain where this lost treasure came from we have to travel back more than 40 years to a time when San Francisco was at the vanguard of the rock-and-roll revolution. And leading the charge was one man, Bill Graham.

    From the first concert he staged at San Francisco's legendary Fillmore auditorium in 1966, Bill Graham became one of the most influential figures in music history. Many say he literally invented the concept of the modern rock concert.

    "Bill Graham did something that very few people do," said Sagan. "He started an industry. Live performance music in music halls. Rock-and-roll. He broke these bands. If Bill Graham hadn't been there, would Janis Joplin have been as big?"

    In 1969, Joplin herself certainly appreciated him. In a 60 Minutes interview, Joplin said: "Graham really understands musicians, and that's really important to musicians. Most promoters don't care anything except 'two 45-minute sets, $6,500 dollars.' They refuse to relate in any other terms."

    From 1966 to 1991, Graham's company, Bill Graham Presents, put on more than 20,000 concerts worldwide. Everyone who was anyone played for him--Jefferson Airplane, Jimi Hendrix, The Grateful Dead, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Santana, U-2. You name it. The list goes on forever.

    And for nearly 30 years Graham saved everything he could get his hands on from every concert he ever put on.

    "Bill Graham was a pack rat," said Sagan. "I think Bill Graham just put everything down in that storage area and was going to keep it forever."

    For Graham, forever didn't last long. In 1991, on his way back from a concert, he was killed in a helicopter crash. While his memory lived on, memory of his archive began to fade. Over the next decade, ownership of Graham's company changed hands several times. But no one took the time to sift through all that "junk" in the basement, until 2003, when the latest owners decided to sell yet again, and Bill Sagan bought it all.

    He said: "And one day -- I believe it was 25, forty-foot trucks -- truckloads took the product from their building over to our building."

    Sagan and his staff kept their find a secret while they catalogued every item from what they now called Wolfgang's Vault. Wolfgang Grajonca was Bill Graham's given name. Now they've opened it up to the world and put most of it up for sale on their website, wolfgangsvault.com.

    First there are the photographs. "I thought there was maybe a half million to a million slides and negatives," said Sagan. "As it turned out, there's probably is closer to a million and a half to two million slides and negatives."

    There are posters by the thousands, the psychedelic artwork that went up weekly in San Francisco in the 60's. "We have more than 500 posters that are so rare that their retail price would be in excess of $15,000," Sagan estimated. "There were drawers full of tickets from decades of concerts."

    Graham seems to have kept every contract he ever signed. But he had one more big surprise in store, and only after he bought the collection and started going through boxes did Sagan discover what may be the most valuable asset.

    "There are nearly 7,000 tapes of 7,000 different performances,' said Sagan. "And the reason I say nearly is because we haven't counted them all and we haven't looked at them all."

    Graham didn't just save memorabilia from the concerts, he saved the concerts themselves -- rare, high quality recordings of legendary concerts that haven't been seen or heard, in some cases, for 40 years.


    Just to give you an idea of what Sagan discovered: The Who's last performance of their rock opera, "Tommy," before drummer Keith Moon died at age 26, and the last concert ever from the British punk-rock pioneers The Sex Pistols.

    Bill Graham's cameras had captured most of all the big names through three decades of rock. The Allman Brothers, Chicago, Lenard Skynard, Peter Frampton, Bob Marley.

    And more concerts were discovered on audio tapes. On the wolfgangsvault web site, fans can now listen to previously unreleased versions of some of their favorite songs.

    "It's tough to do your job because it's so tempting to go down and just listen to audio or go look at video," said Sagan about opening up all the boxes. "I could spend all day doing it every day."

    So remember the part about this being a goldmine? We weren't kidding. Sagan reportedly paid $5 to $6 million dollar for all that stuff.

    "In my opinion it's worth a significant amount more," said Sagan. "It certainly is in excess of $50 million. It's probably in excess of $100 million."

    Sagan grew wealthy running a couple of healthcare and insurance companies. Now he sees himself as part businessman, part guardian of a legacy. He says he'll never sell many of the rarest, most valuable pieces, like Bill Graham's personal poster collection. "It's not for sale. It won't be for sale."

    But most of the rest is up for sale, and Sagan has identified his market: people much like him, members of a nostalgic generation who have some money to spend on memories.

    "Thank god for Baby Boomers who want to relive that good part of what they remember of their youth. And thank god for good music."
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    That is way too cool...
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    OK, now is it just me or did Bill Graham Presents promote the Oakland show? Besides that, did VH play any of those Day on the Green shows?

    HOLY FUCKIN' SHIT!
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    BEST PICTURES EVER.
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    Man, that website is just a treasure trove of goodies from a HUGE list of bands. There is a ton of stuff on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onefootoutthedoor
    OK, now is it just me or did Bill Graham Presents promote the Oakland show? Besides that, did VH play any of those Day on the Green shows?

    HOLY FUCKIN' SHIT!
    Yes. VH's 1st appearance in Oakland in 78 was a Day on the Green with AC/DC, Pat Travers & Foreigner. I was there. VH did a great show but AC/DC owned the stage that day!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahzoo
    Yes. VH's 1st appearance in Oakland in 78 was a Day on the Green with AC/DC, Pat Travers & Foreigner. I was there. VH did a great show but AC/DC owned the stage that day!!

    They play audio footage from the different concerts that they have on that website too. Is there a decent recording out there of that show already?
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    I saw that show this morning on "Sunday Morning" on CBS. I said holy crap, I wonder if they found my guitar I lost back then.... hey.. I was born in the 60's
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    Wow. This story will impact music fans for the next two decades.

    Let's all hope that the inevitable lawyers involved can think "Big Picture" and moderate their greed and the greed of some of those bands.

    I mean, Bill Grahm, come on! This guy WAS rock & roll in San Francisco. He put on the best shows and many of those show are legendary. If he even recorded half of them it's still priceless treasure.

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    yyyyyyyyawwwn, bid deal, old pictures. Please explain how this is such a big deal that will be talked about for decades?
    Sam, Dave,Gary... who cares. its all about what makes you feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by servoguy101
    yyyyyyyyawwwn, bid deal, old pictures. Please explain how this is such a big deal that will be talked about for decades?
    You're being sarcastic, right? The holy grail of concerts for VH - Oakland 81' could possible be in there as well as other gems. Since VH doesn't find it necessary to do a box set, maybe there's hope with this treasure being found. Plus all the other legendary concerts possibly on film.

    I'll put in my HOLY SHIT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by servoguy101
    yyyyyyyyawwwn, bid deal, old pictures. Please explain how this is such a big deal that will be talked about for decades?
    You could try reading the article the fella posted.

    Let me help you:
    "'There are nearly 7,000 tapes of 7,000 different performances,' said Sagan. "And the reason I say nearly is because we haven't counted them all and we haven't looked at them all.'

    Graham didn't just save memorabilia from the concerts, he saved the concerts themselves -- rare, high quality recordings of legendary concerts that haven't been seen or heard, in some cases, for 40 years."
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    Quote Originally Posted by servoguy101
    yyyyyyyyawwwn, bid deal, old pictures. Please explain how this is such a big deal that will be talked about for decades?

    Go to the link and listen to the broadcasts of the performances. There are some high quality recordings of live performances there, not the usual crappy bootleg stuff that gets circulated. Now if he has quality recordings of very early VH performances and is allowed to broadcast those, watch out! And on video too! And that's just VH. Look at all the other bands they have on file-it's a veritable history of rock he's got there. It sounds as though this guy has enough live material for all kinds of future releases and documentaries. That's a pretty big deal if you ask me. Just think of the VH material this guy might have that he might not even know about yet. I foam at the mouth when I think of all the unreleased VH material that is out there. I think there is a TON of high quality VH stuff from very early on-stuff that either Dave, Mike, or the brothers have locked up somewhere that we will never see. Now this guy comes along with 7000 different performances, so of them of Van Halen. How is this NOT a big deal?

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    Judging by the prices this guy is charging for old posters and T-Shirts --the '81 Oakland show will cost more than the mortgage on my house. A lot of the same stuff on ebay goes for a lot less (backstage passes, Sabbath/Halen poster etc).

    This guy is hyping up a press release so he can charge $40 for a 8x10 promo glossy from '91 and call it a treasure.

 

 

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