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    What's the story there? I remember hearing that Hagar and Andy Johns didn't get along (hence Ted Templeman being added to the F.U.C.K. album), but does anyone know why? Fill me in. Thanks.
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    In an interview I remember with Andy Johns, he said that Sammy just didn't seem to take a liking to him and didn't know why or didn't specify. This was back during the 2004 "reunion" tour and he seemed reluctant to go into details, if there is any, thinking it may add fuel to fire.

    Ed has stated that Sammy "refused" to work with Andy during the making of F.U.C.K. and only would work with Ted Templeman because, as he put it, "Ted lets him get away with everything."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovus
    In an interview I remember with Andy Johns, he said that Sammy just didn't seem to take a liking to him and didn't know why or didn't specify. This was back during the 2004 "reunion" tour and he seemed reluctant to go into details, if there is any, thinking it may add fuel to fire.

    Ed has stated that Sammy "refused" to work with Andy during the making of F.U.C.K. and only would work with Ted Templeman because, as he put it, "Ted lets him get away with everything."
    I read the same comments above. Word has it, Sammy is not the easiest guy to produce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOM_5150
    I read the same comments above. Word has it, Sammy is not the easiest guy to produce.
    I can see that. I wonder why Sammy parted ways with Mike Clink, considering that Marching to Mars was relatively successful. Perhaps there was tension there as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timmytripper
    I can see that. I wonder why Sammy parted ways with Mike Clink, considering that Marching to Mars was relatively successful. Perhaps there was tension there as well?
    I don't remember Sam ever saying there was tension with Clink. Sam and Jesse produced RV and I think they also did Ten13. I think sam likes self producing. I remember reading somewhere that Sam didn't really like the sound Andy was getting from him, that's why Ted was brought in....

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    Also, having worked with several people on recording projects, I can tell you that everyone has a different technique for recording and it an get really unnerving if it doesn't work for your style. Some guys like the live vibe, some like headphones, some don't. Some engineers make you do something 100 times and they use the very last take. It might sound like shit in your mind. Then the mix sounds too tinny or hollow etc. etc......Sam probably knows what he likes and how to get it. At this stage of the game, he just doesn't want to deal with The Andy Johns, or Bob Rock types.

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    I wonder how much of Sammy's recent major label trouble has had to do with a reluctance to work with a producer.
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    Considerably less than his genre, age, and lack of numbers, I'd say.

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    I'm guessing that maybe it has something to do with the shitty lyrics Sammy wrote and continues to write. For example, Andy might have said a little something like this: "Sammy, those lyrics are pretty weak, it took you how long to write those? How about taking one for the team and taking an hour or two to put your creative juices to work? Come on, what do you say? Think about it Sam, Pleasure Dome is a great tune, the music is outstanding, but the lyrics? Ah, you get my point. Now forget about that tequila recipe and write some lyrics worthy of the music. What do you say?" Sammy's reply: "Fuck you, Andy. I'm the singer, not you! Piss off, mother fucker. Edward, I want another producer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chain
    I'm guessing that maybe it has something to do with the shitty lyrics Sammy wrote and continues to write. For example, Andy might have said a little something like this: "Sammy, those lyrics are pretty weak, it took you how long to write those? How about taking one for the team and taking an hour or two to put your creative juices to work? Come on, what do you say? Think about it Sam, Pleasure Dome is a great tune, the music is outstanding, but the lyrics? Ah, you get my point. Now forget about that tequila recipe and write some lyrics worthy of the music. What do you say?" Sammy's reply: "Fuck you, Andy. I'm the singer, not you! Piss off, mother fucker. Edward, I want another producer!
    God damn you're stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AVH Blues
    God damn you're stupid.
    Oh, really. You must like Sammy's childish and stupid lyrics. Does that mean you're stupid? Lighten up, friend. It's only an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chain
    Oh, really. You must like Sammy's childish and stupid lyrics. Does that mean you're stupid? Lighten up, friend. It's only an opinion.
    I'm sure you got the reaction you wanted with your original post. Amazing how you take a shot and then get offended when someone calls you on it. Unreal.

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    Sammy's lyrics are childish and stupid, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blind Lemon Loons
    Sammy's lyrics are childish and stupid, though.

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    Ok, Bad. I retract my previous post. Sammy's lyrics are mature, deep, and probably take days, weeks, even months to write. I'm not offended being called stupid. In fact, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the brightest cat on the planet.

 

 

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