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    Arizona Sheriff Uses Anti-Smuggling Law to Target Illegal Immigrants

    GILA BEND, Ariz. — One Arizona county sheriff has created a 250-strong posse to hunt down those who cross the border illegally.

    "I'm the only agency enforcing this law because it is the law," Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio told FOX News. "It's a violation of the law, and I'm going to put tents up from here to Mexico if I have to to keep these illegals incarcerated."

    But Arpaio's actions are already causing some controversy.

    Arpaio, the sheriff for Arizona's most populous county, is taking advantage of a new state law that allows charging undocumented immigrants with criminal conspiracy to smuggle themselves into the United States. Previous laws had made entering the U.S. illegally a misdemeanor, not a felony. The anti-human-smuggling statute took effect in Arizona in August and gave prosecutors a tool to go after "coyotes," or smugglers, who traffic in undocumented immigrants.

    The Maricopa County Attorney's Office later issued an opinion saying undocumented immigrants suspected of paying coyotes could be prosecuted as conspirators.

    "It’s a felony; I am enforcing a new law," Arpaio said. "I’m the elected sheriff and I'm going to do what I feel is right regardless of the controversy."

    On Wednesday night, Arpaio and his posse launched patrols in desert areas and major roadways southwest of Phoenix in search of illegal immigrants to arrest. FOX News' William LaJeunesse rode along on some of the patrols.

    The group was comprised of existing Maricopa County sheriff's deputies and members of the department's 3,000-member posse reserve of trained volunteers.

    The posse was patrolling the area here for illegal immigrants who pay smugglers to cross through Arizona, the busiest illegal entry point along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border. There have been 147 arrests since the posse began its roundups six weeks ago, including at least one arrest Wednesday night.

    The unorthodox sheriff's department has built a tent city that currently houses around 2,000, with inmates forced to wear pink underwear.

    Those who are captured by the posse may end up in jail, charged under the state law that allowed local law enforcement agencies to charge suspected smugglers in Arizona — it was already a federal crime.

    "I equate it to the drug traffic," Arpaio told FOX News. "I spent 38 years fighting the international drug traffic. You arrest the supplier, you arrest the customer. It's the conspiracy, the customer to buy — the same thing here.”

    But local pro-immigrant activists disagree with Arpaio's tactics.

    "You need to get federal training to become an immigration officer and they have not done it yet, so they are stepping out of bounds," said Hector Yturralde of "We Are America." He worries that posses like Maricopa's one could target Hispanics who live in the country legally.

    "I've got brown hair, I've got brown skin, I've got dark eyes," he said, voicing concern about racial profiling. "You're going to pull me over. What happens if I don't have identification on me? As a U.S. citizen, sometimes it happens. Where am I going to end up?"

    FOX News has learned the Mexican government has hired a stateside lawyer to sue Arpaio and the county over the new statute.

    The federal law has been used against more than 100 illegal immigrants in Maricopa County this year. The law was meant to crack down on smugglers, but under a disputed interpretation, County Attorney Andrew Thomas argues the law also can be applied to the smuggled immigrants themselves.

    Thomas maintains illegal immigrants who pay smugglers to enter the United States are committing conspiracy to smuggle and can therefore be prosecuted under the state law. It's punishable by up to two years in jail.

    "It's going to be a help to the county," posse member D.J. Pigott said. "Illegal immigrants are getting everything that, in my estimation, they should not get. We're being overrun by these people. If the federal government is not going to do it, the sheriff is going to do it."

    As states and localities — particularly those along the Mexican border — try to grapple with the large number of illegal immigrants coming into their areas, many complain that the federal government is not doing enough to curb the problem. But federal officials have been conducting raids to try to show they're serious about cracking down on businesses that employ undocumented workers.

    Julie Myers, the assistant secretary for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), told FOX News that no business is immune from investigation.

    "Follow the law," Myers said. "If you don't follow the law, you risk us coming after you, you risk having workers who are scared to show up because they think ICE might show up at their door."

    She added: "We certainly understand the frustration of the American people. We share that frustration. We're working creatively to solve this problem."

    It remains to be seen whether a judge will uphold the smuggling law as applicable to illegal immigrants. Lawyers for some arrested illegal immigrants have filed motions to have the charges dismissed.

    The Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law in Los Angeles is challenging Thomas's interpretation.

    "We agree with Andrew Thomas that federal immigration policy is a mess," said Peter Schey, director of the human rights group. "But we part company when it comes to what should be done about that. We don't believe anyone has the right to break the law because they're frustrated with federal policy."

    Even the authors of the state smuggling law say it was meant to crack down on violent immigrant smugglers — not the people they're transporting.

    "I never intended that immigrants would be arrested," said Rep. Jonathan Paton, a Republican who was one of three legislators to write the smuggling law.

    Other police agencies say that arresting illegal immigrants under the law would overwhelm them financially.

    "I can't afford to do what Sheriff Arpaio is doing," said Sheriff Tony Estrada of Santa Cruz County, one of four Arizona border counties. "He can do a lot of crazy things with his resources. We can't. We're strapped."
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    Good for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZORBA5150
    Good for them
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    I'm glad somebody's trying to do something about this. I read about one rancher who had to keep rebuilding his fence b/c the illegals kept tearing through it to get in. Constantly.

    So this is good that they're cracking down on the problem. At least to me.

    In that pic the guys kinda look like what I would picture terrorists to look like.
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    Oh, good, another immigration thread.

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    OMG you're right. I didn't even realize it. Wow.

    And away we go........................
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    I think the last immigration thread was the only thread that I started that ended up being closed!

    There goes my streak!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoHalen
    I think the last immigration thread was the only thread that I started that ended up being closed!

    There goes my streak!
    LOL, troublemaker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen
    Oh, good, another immigration thread.
    NO!! It's a Arizona Anti-Smuggling Law Thread....
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    In a related, unconfirmed development, Arizona officials are said to be rounding up all infants under the age of 2 who do not have blond hair and blue eyes... this is believable, but unconfirmed at this point. If you live in AZ, you'd better look white, because otherwise you are suspect!

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    I'm guessing you have some illegal relatives here, Phatie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay
    I'm guessing you have some illegal relatives here, Phatie?

    Paternal Grandfather, entrepeneur mexicano extraordinario.

    Besides the fact that I am Mexican, I enjoy the food, culture, and valores de la familia.

    It is unfair to single out a race of people for the color of their skin and racial profile. But in Arizona, the whites think they are the supreme race. It was just a wee bit too white for me, so I left.

    The ironic thing for me is that on my maternal side, I'm also blood related to Bradford, the Governor of the 1st colony who stole the land from the native Americans.

    I have a border crossing in my mind, between my right and left hemisphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoHalen
    I think the last immigration thread was the only thread that I started that ended up being closed!

    There goes my streak!
    YOU'RE to blame!!!
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    Anybody know if this is the same sheriff in Arizona who puts prisoners in tents, makes them wear pink underwear, and feeds them moldy hotdogs?

 

 

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