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    POSTED: 5:53 pm EST March 29, 2006
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    Several parents in Apopka, Fla., are upset over a surprise school "Holocaust" project that some say tormented children, according to a Local 6 News report.

    Local 6 News reported that eighth-graders with last names beginning with L through Z at Apopka Memorial Middle School were given yellow five-pointed stars for Holocaust Remembrance Day. Other students were privileged, the report said.
    Father John Tinnelly said his son was forced to stand in the back of the classroom and not allowed to sit because he was wearing the yellow star.

    "He was forced to go to the back of the lunch line four times by an administrator," Tinnelly said.

    Tinnelly said the experiment upset his child.

    "He was crying," Tinnelly said. "I said, 'What are you crying about?' He said, 'Daddy, I was a Jew today.'"

    Other parents and children shared similar stories, Tinnelly said.

    "They were told that they could not use the water fountains," Tinnely said. "There was even a sign supposedly at one water fountain (saying) if you're wearing a yellow star , you can't use this water fountain."


    "This was supposed to be a creative way to teach the horrors of the Holocaust but unfortunately it has sparked controversy and more importantly it has sparked conversation," Reznick said. "We have now heard from nearly a dozen parents (who are) very upset."

    Tinnelly said he believes it is important to teach the Holocaust, but apparently little was learned during the experiment.

    "I tried to talk to my son and I asked all of these questions and the only thing he said is, 'Daddy, the only thing I found out today is I don't want to be Jewish,'" Tinnelly said.

    "Children were selected to be persecuted or privileged, some not told the rule," Local 6 reporter Gerald Reznick said. "Parents tell Local 6 they were not told prior to the school-wide experiment."

    "Teachers felt that it would have defeated the purpose to tell the students ahead of time because that would have prepared them," Principal Douglas Guthrie said. "Students came in and all they got was a star."

    "This was supposed to be a creative way to teach the horrors of the Holocaust but unfortunately, it has sparked controversy and more importantly, it has sparked conversation," Reznick said. "We have now heard from nearly a dozen parents (who are) very upset."

    Local 6 News aired a statement from The Holocaust Memorial Resource and Education Center of Florida; "Of course, we applaud Apopka (Memorial) Middle School's effort to engage in Holocaust education with the hope of a tolerance education component in the classroom. That is the mission of The Center to teach tolerance through Holocaust remembrance and education. However, we do not encourage nor train teachers to engage in simulation exercises."

    Guthrie admitted that he would do some things differently in the exercise because of complaints but said some kids got the message, Reznick said.

    "They need to know, we don't want history to repeat itself," Guthrie said.
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    I don't know - as long as you don't push it too far, I don't see this as a bad way to drive home the horrors of the holocaust or even our own racist past, for that matter. These were eighth graders - I wouldn't want to try it with real young students, but these guys should've been old enough. I think it's just a symptom of what we've become - "Jr. was forced to stand at the back of the room - not as punishment, but to get a sense of what it feels like to be treated like a second class citizen - can't do that to Jr. Can't subject Jr. to anything negative. Jr.'s a Superstar" It's not like they were being loaded into boxcars or kept in a classroom without eating for days on end. I don't think anyone was being physically harmed. But again, I don't know for how long they were being made to stand at the back of the room. If it was not for longer than a class period, then I really don't see anything wrong with it. The only thing I might've driven home is I might not equated it to Jews - I might've just labeled it a lesson in oppression.

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    Why don't they just teach it, and quit using this role playing bullshit? Idiots.
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    Well, you can explain to kids what dodgeball was, but it's a lot easier if you just bounce one off their head!
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    Well, you can explain to kids what dodgeball was, but it's a lot easier if you just bounce one off their head!
    We weren't allowed to go head hunting in dodgeball.
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    It sounds like the children won't forget about the holocaust anytime soon, now does it???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300

    Guthrie admitted that he would do some things differently in the exercise because of complaints but said some kids got the message, Reznick said.

    "They need to know, we don't want history to repeat itself," Guthrie said.
    History IS repeating itself. And your own fucking state is to blame for it, Mr. Guthrie.
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    The problem is that they didn't teach the kids anything about the Holocaust.

    The Holocaust is a heavy-duty subject and really can't be taught well to kids under 15 years old. You have to teach about the great depression, WWI and the way that it ended plus the impact the war had on America and other Europian countries. Then you have to explain Ant-Semitism and it's unique Europian history. Then you ave to explain Hitler and his rise to power, the SA and the SS . Then you have to deal with the death camps.

    There are a lot of adults who don't understand the Holocaust and even fewer who understand National Socialism. So how did they expect to teach kids that young about it?
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    Speaking of simulations - my oldest son's class is simulating the pill cocktails that HIV positive patients have to take by taking a 6-pill cocktail 5 times a day over the next two days. The pills? Plain M&Ms, which they are to swallow in a pill-like manner. Just what they need - another excuse to scarf candy!

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    Jeez we got monkeys running the schools now or what??

    Who on earth would tell kids to swallow m&m's like pills?? What if a kid chokes on one?? Who's liable then?

    Why didn't they tell parents about any of this Holocaust lesson/experiment stuff? Common sense - which is clearly lacking here - would dictate that the parents need to be aware of what's being taught or proposed to being taught to their student and given to choice to either participate or not participate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007
    Speaking of simulations - my oldest son's class is simulating the pill cocktails that HIV positive patients have to take by taking a 6-pill cocktail 5 times a day over the next two days. The pills? Plain M&Ms, which they are to swallow in a pill-like manner. Just what they need - another excuse to scarf candy!
    I can understand the concept of what they're doing, but I'm not sure M&Ms were the best substitute for pills, since nobody's going to have a problem eating candy 5 times a day. Couldn't they have used some vitamins or just plain ol' sugar placebo pills?
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    I think shit went downhill in schools when they outlawed spankings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007
    Speaking of simulations - my oldest son's class is simulating the pill cocktails that HIV positive patients have to take by taking a 6-pill cocktail 5 times a day over the next two days. The pills? Plain M&Ms, which they are to swallow in a pill-like manner. Just what they need - another excuse to scarf candy!
    What grade is this?

    If it's a highschool class, it would be smarter to unroll a condom on a banana and then show how quickly is will disolve when you put vaseline on it.

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