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    XM Radio's Loss Widens, Key Director Quits By SETH SUTEL, AP Business Writer
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    XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. posted a much wider loss in the fourth quarter on higher costs for marketing and acquiring subscribers. At the same time, a key director quit over disagreements about the company's direction, warning of a looming "crisis."

    Its shares sank $2.16, or 8.6 percent, to $23.09 in morning trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market, after briefly trading as low as $22.94. Their previous 52-week low was $23.01.

    XM, the larger of the country's two satellite radio operators, reported Thursday a loss of $270.4 million, or $1.22 per share, after dividends for preferred stockholders, for the October-December period. In the same period a year earlier, the loss was $190.4 million, or 93 cents per share.

    Revenue more than doubled to $177.1 million from $83.1 million. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Financial expected a loss of 92 cents per share on revenue of $174.1 million.

    The Washington, D.C.-based company also disclosed in a regulatory filing that Pierce Roberts Jr. has stepped down as a director, citing strategic differences with other board members over the company's direction.

    Roberts, a former chief telecom investment banker with Bear Stearns, had served as a director for five years and sat on all of the board's major committees.

    In a letter to board chairman Gary Parsons, Roberts said he was "troubled" by the company's current path. "Given current course and speed there is, in my view, a significant chance of a crisis on the horizon," Roberts wrote. "Even absent a crisis, I believe that XM will inevitably serve its shareholders poorly without major changes now."

    The company said in a statement accompanying the letter that its management and other directors disagreed with Roberts over how to balance growth versus cash flow, believing that it was important for the long term to keep up its rapid growth rate.

    XM and its smaller rival, Sirius Satellite Radio Inc., are locked in a vicious, expensive battle to line up listeners and programming for their pay radio services, which currently cost about $13 a month and require a special receiver. Both offer dozens of channels of talk and news as well as commercial-free music.

    Both have also racked up significant financial losses as they build their businesses, signing big-ticket contracts for programming with shock jock Howard Stern, Major League Baseball, talk show host Oprah Winfrey and others.

    For the full year, XM posted a loss, after preferred dividends, of $675.3 million, or $3.07 per share, compared with $651.2 million, or $3.30 per share, last year. Revenue rose to $558.3 million from $244.4 million.

    XM said it had more than 5.9 million subscribers at the end of 2005, up 84 percent from a year earlier, and said its total had risen to more than 6 million in the first week of January. Sirius has said it has more than 3 million subscribers.

    XM's CEO Hugh Panero said in a statement that the company expects to reach profitability from its operations by the end of this year, with subscription revenues reaching $860 million. He also said he expects to have 9 million subscribers by the end of the year.
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    I've been pessimistic about satelite's success. Maybe I'm missing something,
    but I don't see the appeal and never understood how it was going to be
    attractive to consumers who already have free, commercial radio and iPods
    and the like. As much as I bitch about traffic and driving, my commute is
    only 30 minutes either way, not enough to warrant an additional radio
    investment. And at home, I never even think about radio.

    What's it all about?
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    I have Sirius Radio and I love it. Commercial free radio that ranges from Sinatra to Slayer. The receiver I have allows you to store 30 atrists/songs and then will alert you when one of these songs or artists come on. It's sweet because I can be on the way home from work listening to Jimmy Buffett and *ding* Iron Maiden is on so you can go almost from one band to another without hearing any of the bands that you don't want to or any commercials. I think Sirius has about 120 channels so needles to say your 30 stored artists come up a ton as well as Game Alert for NBA and NFL footbal. It lets you know when the game is on and also if you decide to turn the station it will continue to give scoring updates even though you switched over off the game. I will never get rid of it. Having music that you want to hear on about 80% of the time is well worth a $12.95 investment a month. So I say try and you will get hooked on it too.
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    You mean O&A aren't going to save the company?

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    Please don't get Bostonian started on the virtues of XM radio vs Sirius again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveevhsince79
    Please don't get Bostonian started on the virtues of XM radio vs Sirius again.
    Do you mean something like: XM can lose more money than sirius?


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    I love satellite radio, never listen to the regular radio anymore...never. I have Sirius, not XM though.

    Sirius is obviously hurting XM a lot now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistere
    I've been pessimistic about satelite's success. Maybe I'm missing something,
    but I don't see the appeal and never understood how it was going to be
    attractive to consumers who already have free, commercial radio and iPods
    and the like. As much as I bitch about traffic and driving, my commute is
    only 30 minutes either way, not enough to warrant an additional radio
    investment. And at home, I never even think about radio.

    What's it all about
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    It's about selection with clear sound coast to coast. This is Xm's channels...I'm sure Sirius has a massive list as well...




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    Ch 202 High Voltage Talk & Entertainment Opie & Anthony! Show Schedule Listen
    Ch 204-209 Home Ice Sports NHL Talk and Play-by-Play Show Schedule
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    Ch 244 Canada 360 News News & Information
    Ch 245 Quoi de Neuf News News & Information - Broadcast in French
    Ch 247 XM Emergency Alert 24/7 Traffic & Weather 24/7 Emergency Information
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    Hopefully Jim Rome will move to Sirius. That'll really put a nail in XM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay
    Hopefully Jim Rome will move to Sirius. That'll really put a nail in XM.
    Ok, I have XM. I don't know which one is better. I know I'd rather have the NFL instead of some of the sports XM does have. I don't want to turn this in to another XM vs Sirius thread like all the Sam/Dave clusterf*cks but.....

    Why do you want to "put a nail in XM". Would you prefer Sirius to have a monoply on satellite radio?
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    But XM has OPRAH..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw
    But XM has OPRAH..........
    Didn't I hear that she will only appear for 1/2 an hour a week over the phone?
    Sammy did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
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    Now the new David-Lee-Roth-Van Halen album, “Tokyo Dome In Concert,” is available for purchase, and it’s super, super, super, super, super, super, crazy bad. - Doug Elfman

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    Quote Originally Posted by axebrian
    Why do you want to "put a nail in XM"?
    I really don't care. As long as everything I want to hear contiunes to be on Sirius.
    Sammy did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
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    Now the new David-Lee-Roth-Van Halen album, “Tokyo Dome In Concert,” is available for purchase, and it’s super, super, super, super, super, super, crazy bad. - Doug Elfman

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    I have XM and I'm bummed about this. It doesn't sound like either company is doing all that well right now... I'm sure Sirius is getting a nice bump from bringing Howard on board.

    Unless its just sheer mis-management, I don't think that their should be a "nail" for either company. There are two major satellite TV vendors, I don't see any reason XM and Sirius won't both flourish in the long run. It is a relatively new idea, but I think that it will catch on as commercial radio continues to get worse and worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay
    Didn't I hear that she will only appear for 1/2 an hour a week over the phone?
    Does it even matter? LOL

    Really, what can she offer XM? She has a daily tv show that takes up a bulk of her time and effort, not to mention the Oxygen channel and her magazine. All she probably has left is a 1/2 hour a week.

 

 

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