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    BROCKTON, Mass. -- It's a case of sexual harassment -- involving first-graders. A boy at Downey Elementary in Brockton, Mass., was suspended from school for three days last month after school officials said that he sexually harassed a girl in his class.Elementary school officials called the boy's mother, Berthena Dorinvil, on Jan. 30, and asked her to pick up her child from the school. Dorinvil said that officials told her that her son was being suspended for sexually harassing a 6-year-old female classmate."My son told me that the girl touched him first, so he touched her back," Dorinvil said. "I was shocked. I was crying. I was out of control," Dorinvil said. Dorinvil said she "screamed' when she heard about the disciplinary action.Dorinvil said the boy is just 6 and has no idea what sexual harassment means. Dorinvil said her son wanted to know if the police were going to take him away."When he comes home, he says, 'Mommy, are police going to arrest me?' I can't even make a phone call without him (asking) who I am speaking to. He is very frustrated because he is a very emotional kid. It bothers me so much to see my son go through this," Dorinvil said.Dorinvil said the children were playing on the floor and touching each other. She said her son touched the girl's shirt, but not her skin. She said her son was suspended after being accused of putting two fingers inside the female classmate's waistband and touching her back.Dorinvil is outraged and has demanded that her son be transferred to another elementary school. The suspension has ended but Dorinvil has not sent her son back to the school. She wants him moved to another school, but so far officials have only offered to move him to another class within the same school. Brockton school officials are defending their decision to suspend the first-grader.School officials would not speak on camera, and police officers were posted at the school Tuesday afternoon. The school superintendent released a statement that said, "The safety and well-being of Brockton public school students and staff is of the utmost important to us, and we take all allegations of sexual harassment seriously." But Dorinvil said her son has no idea what the term sexual harassment means and insists he was only playing with the girl.

    This bullshit is so out of control it should embarrass everyone. "We take all allegations of sexual harassment seriously." Something tells me the little girl didn't complain but some 'teacher' with their PC priorities in all the wrong places deemed it necessary. Amazing.

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    Oh boy. This just gets better and better don't it??

    Whattan f'd up world we live in.
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    The after school special from BROCKTON, Mass.
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    Came on now. The way she was finger painting and gluing macaroni to a peice of paper means she was asking for it.


    This is so stupid. These children have no idea about what they did wrong. This should not be a media event period. Kids do stupid shit, look at America's Funniest Home Videos. Kids at that age don't know shit and to think they do is a joke. Any punishment at all is to much. I am pretty sure sexual harassment comes after learning to tie your shoes, spell your name, and know the alphabet.
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    Hard to believe a 6 year old getting suspended for sexual harrasement. They don't even know what it means. WTF is up with that teacher!!!!!


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    Unfortunately from the school's standpoint you can not legally turn a blind eye to any instance such as this. We do not know if this was a first offense nor do we know the full details. Has this little boy done this previously? All we really have here is a parent claiming total innocence. Could it be.....sure but the school can not legally discuss the situation other than to the parents involved. As a principal I have had parents, school board members, and even the NAACP called in regards to decisions I have made. In all instances not once was a policy violated in the dealings with each student. What I have noticed is usually the violating student's parent who screams the loudest gets the most attention. At that point the media runs with that side of the story. The school can not legally discuss the situaton (FERPA) and it always appears they are hiding something. I will also say this.....never doubt what a kid "knows". Kids are very impressionable and imitate what they see. I have had kids say they want to have sex because "mommy does it on the couch with John".

    Ask yourself this, if it was your daughter being inappropriately touched how would you want the school to respond? I take student safety extremely important. I expect my staff to as well. I am also confident that the parents do as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecuda
    Unfortunately from the school's standpoint you can not legally turn a blind eye to any instance such as this. We do not know if this was a first offense nor do we know the full details. Has this little boy done this previously? All we really have here is a parent claiming total innocence. Could it be.....sure but the school can not legally discuss the situation other than to the parents involved. As a principal I have had parents, school board members, and even the NAACP called in regards to decisions I have made. In all instances not once was a policy violated in the dealings with each student. What I have noticed is usually the violating student's parent who screams the loudest gets the most attention. At that point the media runs with that side of the story. The school can not legally discuss the situaton (FERPA) and it always appears they are hiding something. I will also say this.....never doubt what a kid "knows". Kids are very impressionable and imitate what they see. I have had kids say they want to have sex because "mommy does it on the couch with John".

    Ask yourself this, if it was your daughter being inappropriately touched how would you want the school to respond? I take student safety extremely important. I expect my staff to as well. I am also confident that the parents do as well.

    I understand your point of view, but if we didn't live in such a litigious society, I really don't think this would have happened. It's all about covering your own ass now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onefootoutthedoor
    I understand your point of view, but if we didn't live in such a litigious society, I really don't think this would have happened. It's all about covering your own ass now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecuda
    Unfortunately from the school's standpoint you can not legally turn a blind eye to any instance such as this. We do not know if this was a first offense nor do we know the full details. Has this little boy done this previously? All we really have here is a parent claiming total innocence. Could it be.....sure but the school can not legally discuss the situation other than to the parents involved. As a principal I have had parents, school board members, and even the NAACP called in regards to decisions I have made. In all instances not once was a policy violated in the dealings with each student. What I have noticed is usually the violating student's parent who screams the loudest gets the most attention. At that point the media runs with that side of the story. The school can not legally discuss the situaton (FERPA) and it always appears they are hiding something. I will also say this.....never doubt what a kid "knows". Kids are very impressionable and imitate what they see. I have had kids say they want to have sex because "mommy does it on the couch with John".

    Ask yourself this, if it was your daughter being inappropriately touched how would you want the school to respond? I take student safety extremely important. I expect my staff to as well. I am also confident that the parents do as well.


    Ok..... after what I saw today at school (won't go into detail).... I totally believe this can happen. I CAN NOT believe what some 6 yr olds already know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecuda
    Unfortunately from the school's standpoint you can not legally turn a blind eye to any instance such as this. We do not know if this was a first offense nor do we know the full details. Has this little boy done this previously? All we really have here is a parent claiming total innocence. Could it be.....sure but the school can not legally discuss the situation other than to the parents involved. As a principal I have had parents, school board members, and even the NAACP called in regards to decisions I have made. In all instances not once was a policy violated in the dealings with each student. What I have noticed is usually the violating student's parent who screams the loudest gets the most attention. At that point the media runs with that side of the story. The school can not legally discuss the situaton (FERPA) and it always appears they are hiding something. I will also say this.....never doubt what a kid "knows". Kids are very impressionable and imitate what they see. I have had kids say they want to have sex because "mommy does it on the couch with John".

    Ask yourself this, if it was your daughter being inappropriately touched how would you want the school to respond? I take student safety extremely important. I expect my staff to as well. I am also confident that the parents do as well.

    I agree, there has to be more to this story.

    That said, this is in a state that almost never gives anyone more than 12 years for murder, they usually are more progressive with young children. They've dropped the ball with this situation. I can see suspending the boy for "Misconduct" or "Inappropriate Behavior", but not sexual harrassment. 6 year olds are not sexual beings, they haven't figured out how their own bodies work yet. To use this terminology is dumb, it's only going to provoke the parents and then the school now has to explain their policy in the national media. They meant well, but using the term " Sexual Harrassment" crosses a line that they could have avoided and now they are stuck.

    My guess is that Junior has a track record, his mother sounds like a nightmare parent. My mother made it clear to me and my brothers that if we ever got suspended we would be dead meat when we got home. All through my time in school the ultimate threat was "Are we going to have to call your mother?", that was enough for me to adjust my inclass demeanor. Mom never spanked us but she could make us misserable if she wasn't happy with us. On the other hand, if this kid has problems then the school needed to get him evaluated by the school psychologist before this came down, or maybe they did. Like I said, there has to be more to this story.

    By the way, if some kid shoved his fingers in my daughter's waistband, I would be at Mommy and Daddy's house before sunset and Daddy would get "Man" lessons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Poundcake
    Ok..... after what I saw today at school (won't go into detail).... I totally believe this can happen. I CAN NOT believe what some 6 yr olds already know!
    It shocks me, too...There's more to the story...
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    We certainly live in different times. I have to admit that when I was in kindergarten (I am 35 now) - I was the boy going around and kissing all the girls. I never went through a phase where girls were icky. If we had today's law's back then, I would have been arrested.

    It's a sad day in the world. I don't care what anyone says - there is a HUGE line between kids being curious and harassment. Remember the days, when you found your dad's Beta Max porno collection at 10 years old and invited your friends over to watch. It was all part of growing up back then and should be that way now too.
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    Axx - Good point. The situation could have been handled without labeling it Sexual Harassment. We should be able to tell children that they have to keep their hands to themselves without it having a sexual meaning. Maybe the parent is a nightmare and there is more to the story but is the possibility there for her child to be called a sexual predator? Kids are curious, it's normal and part of growing up. Could it go too far the other way that we see things which are not there but react due to the possibility of legal action? Are we guilty of putting thoughts in kids minds? Absolutely. I don't want my daughter being touched in a sexual manner but I guess I see where kids can do dumb things and overreacting can do harm as well. I mean, my kids are 5 (girl) and 4 (boy) and have just found the wonderful past time of mooning each other. I don't approve of course and action is taken but are they sexually harassing each other? Not in my opinion but in this day and age, they probably are by legal standards.

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    It's H-A-R-A-S-S-M-E-N-T, I apologize for my spelling, jeez.

    Anyway, you're right about kids, I played "Doctor" and "Show Me Yours And I'll Show You Mine" up until around 7 years old. I had no clue as to what I was looking at and there was lots of giggling going on. Mooning or just seeing a girl's underpants was like a big event, but it wasn't a errotic thing, it was a source of humor.

    Our grammar school had two playgrounds, the upper one was for Kindergarden and first graders and the lower one was for the older kids. Looking back, it was not uncommon to find 1st Grade girls hanging upside down by their knees from the monkey bars (do they still have those?) with their skirts hanging up around their chest. Some moms made sure to dress their girls in leotards under their dress, heading off any technical issues, but others didn't. Nobody cared. I didn't, girls didn't play with GI Joes and were always hogging the swingset, so they were the enemy.

    Back then parents were also more proactive not only with their own kids but with their children's friends. If I was over at a friend's house and was out of line with his sister I heard about it, usually it was just a stern but friendly lecture about how I was to conduct myself. That was enough for me.

    Someone on the radio brought up a great point:

    What kind of school administrator sees six year olds in a sexual way in the first place?
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