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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    I kept waiting for both Geezer and Tony to chime in, but they let Ozzy and Bill do all the talking, at least in that brief clip.
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    I'm not the biggest The Sabs fan with Ozzy, I may confess. Of course, that does not mean I don't dig their 1st period, tours and records. I do!

    Stuff like Paranoid, Master of Reality, Sabotage, Technical Ecstasy are still my favourite records with Ozzy as their lead singer.
    I'm more of a Dio fan that can also appreciate guys like Ian Gillan, Ray Gillen and Tony Martin leading the band.

    The point is that I never get into their debut album. I guess I need to get back and listen to it a little bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Ribeiro View Post
    I'm not the biggest The Sabs fan with Ozzy, I may confess. Of course, that does not mean I don't dig their 1st period, tours and records. I do!

    Stuff like Paranoid, Master of Reality, Sabotage, Technical Ecstasy are still my favourite records with Ozzy as their lead singer.
    I'm more of a Dio fan that can also appreciate guys like Ian Gillan, Ray Gillen and Tony Martin leading the band.

    The point is that I never get into their debut album. I guess I need to get back and listen to it a little bit more.
    Yes you do
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     "He has a swaggering retro machismo that will give hives to the Steinem cabal" -Camille Paglia on Donald Trump

    "But, fucking with Brook is like fucking with hot shit on and ax handle. You just don't get a grip"-track5

    "Make way for the bad guy"- Tony Montana

    'This hamburger don't need no helper"- David Lee Roth

    "I wish Bon Jovi would've given me a call before he recorded all of his hits, because the lyrics would've been smarter, the melodies would've been much more smashing, and they would've sold a lot fewer records." -David Lee Roth

    "My beef is people thinking Bon Jovi is good cuz they sold lots of records to housewives." -tango

    "But being number one doesn’t really mean jack fuck all. We sold twice as many records as other records that year (1984) that landed in the Number One position." ~Eddie Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Ribeiro View Post
    I'm not the biggest The Sabs fan with Ozzy, I may confess. Of course, that does not mean I don't dig their 1st period, tours and records. I do!

    Stuff like Paranoid, Master of Reality, Sabotage, Technical Ecstasy are still my favourite records with Ozzy as their lead singer.
    I'm more of a Dio fan that can also appreciate guys like Ian Gillan, Ray Gillen and Tony Martin leading the band.

    The point is that I never get into their debut album. I guess I need to get back and listen to it a little bit more.
    First six BS albums are just classic IMO, so many great songs. NIB on the debut is still one of my top metal songs of all time, the tempo, the sound, the lyrics, it's got it all for me.


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    Sabotage, Sabbath bloody sabbath and master of reality, are my faves.

    For me, Sabbath was born with album three: master of reality.

    The first two still have that blues, hippie vibe.

    Master invented stoner rock and metal.
    He tuned way down and the riffs just crush you.

    Into the void, still, might be the greatest riff of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Was it just Sabbath’s debut or was it a culmination of Led Zeppelin II’s being released in Oct of ‘69 and reaching #1 in The US, UK and most of Europe...bumping The Beatles Abbey Road out of that spot...coupled with Sabbath’s debut being released in Feb ‘70?

    And a compelling argument can be, and has been made concerning Helter Skelter’s (Nov ‘68) contribution to the birth of the genre....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombattt View Post
    Was it just Sabbath’s debut or was it a culmination of Led Zeppelin II’s being released in Oct of ‘69 and reaching #1 in The US, UK and most of Europe...bumping The Beatles Abbey Road out of that spot...coupled with Sabbath’s debut being released in Feb ‘70?

    And a compelling argument can be, and has been made concerning Helter Skelter’s (Nov ‘68) contribution to the birth of the genre....
    Listen, Zeppelin also had a hand as did Deep Purple. Those three bands brought us all the elements that became Heavy Metal. Dark imagery? Check. Guitar hero? Check (in spades)
    Sword & Sorcery? Triple check.

    Alice Cooper also contributed. There are others too
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    "But, fucking with Brook is like fucking with hot shit on and ax handle. You just don't get a grip"-track5

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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Sabotage, Sabbath bloody sabbath and master of reality, are my faves.

    For me, Sabbath was born with album three: master of reality.

    The first two still have that blues, hippie vibe.

    Master invented stoner rock and metal.
    He tuned way down and the riffs just crush you.

    Into the void, still, might be the greatest riff of all time.
    1 - My father never bought Sabs Bloody Sabs so I never listened to it that much. It happened years later when I was in High School.

    2 - I'm sure Edward Van Halen agrees with you there, man! So do I!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Sabotage, Sabbath bloody sabbath and master of reality, are my faves.

    For me, Sabbath was born with album three: master of reality.

    The first two still have that blues, hippie vibe.

    Master invented stoner rock and metal.
    He tuned way down and the riffs just crush you.

    Into the void, still, might be the greatest riff of all time.
    I don't know if anyone could argue against "War Pigs" "Paranoid" and "Iron Man" literally invented metal upon recording. Those songs were so freakin' heavy for their time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombattt View Post
    Was it just Sabbath’s debut or was it a culmination of Led Zeppelin II’s being released in Oct of ‘69 and reaching #1 in The US, UK and most of Europe...bumping The Beatles Abbey Road out of that spot...coupled with Sabbath’s debut being released in Feb ‘70?

    And a compelling argument can be, and has been made concerning Helter Skelter’s (Nov ‘68) contribution to the birth of the genre....
    Well, I went to high school in the '80's so what we considered the roots of metal that all the branches then grew from were Sabbath and Zep. Deep Purple & Cream/Yardbirds to a lesser degree. Judas Priest was also considered in that mix because they formed in '69 despite not releasing an album until '74. These days I think of JP and Motorhead as bands that bridged the originals with the NWOBHM movement that started in the late '70's but exploded in the early '80's.

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    I think Deep Purple's "In Rock," was a huge album in the formation of Heavy Metal.

    Even Cream's "Disraeli Gears," had a lot of those elements.
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