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    Women demand tougher laws to curb abortions (UK)
    The Guardian ^ | January 29, 2006 | Denis Campbell and Gaby Hinsliff

    A majority of women in Britain want the abortion laws to be tightened to make it harder, or impossible, for them to terminate a pregnancy.

    Evidence of a widespread public demand for the government to further restrict women's right to have an abortion is revealed in a remarkable Observer opinion poll. The findings have reignited the highly-charged debate on abortion, and increased the pressure on Tony Blair to review the current time limits.

    The survey by MORI shows that 47 per cent of women believe the legal limit for an abortion should be cut from its present 24 weeks, and another 10 per cent want the practice outlawed altogether. Among the population overall, reducing the upper limit was the preferred option backed by the largest proportion of respondents, 42 per cent, made up of a 36-47 per cent split among men and women.

    Only one person in three agreed that 'the current time limit is about right', with slightly fewer women (31 per cent) than men (35 per cent) saying that. Just 2 per cent of women and 5 per cent of men think the last possible date after which a woman can end a pregnancy should be increased from 24 weeks.

    Increased awareness of the realities of abortion, and the impact of ultrasound images of a 23-week-old foetus smiling and grimacing, have made people change their views, said Ivereigh. The latter 'very dramatically showed that what had been depersonalised in many people's minds as a foetus was clearly seen to be a baby, a human being in formation, and that has come as a shock to many people', he added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SactoFan
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    Its actually quite peaceful with the baby-haters quiet on this one.

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    5 1/2 to 6 months is pretty damn long to go before making up your mind to abort a pregnancy. I'm Pro-Choice, but I think they should decrease that time limit somewhat.
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    God, it's such a tricky subject. It definitely shouldn't be down outside the first trimester--hell, even outside the first 6 weeks or so is a bit much, unless the mother's life is endangered.

    I think if a girl goes in for her second abortion, it should be allowed, but only if followed by mandatory tube-tying.
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    I tend to think of this as a woman's issue, and thus have a tendency to steer clear of it.

    I mean, how many of the men would want a panel of old, white bitties voting on your nuts? Not me, man.

    I also think that the GOP mantra of "less government" should probably also mean that they will stay out of your uterus....ya know?
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    Medical science has advanced so far that a 24 week old baby has a strong chance of survival now. I can remember a case of an aborted baby surviving. I'm not a person who agrees with abortion, but for those who do, the latest should be 12 weeks unless very extreme circumatances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum
    I tend to think of this as a woman's issue, and thus have a tendency to steer clear of it.

    I mean, how many of the men would want a panel of old, white bitties voting on your nuts? Not me, man.

    I also think that the GOP mantra of "less government" should probably also mean that they will stay out of your uterus....ya know?
    The woman is only half the parent. How about a situation where you want the child, as a man you are the father, and she wants to teminate the pregnancy? That baby is 1/2 yours; and certainly the government will make sure you pay child support once its hatched. You should therefore have some right to keep the child. I realize its a hot-button for most, and shouldn't be political at all, but it is.

    If a baby in the womb isn't a human, why do drunk drivers who kill pregnant women get charged with 2 counts of vehicular homicide?

    I've never had a baby, but I'm certainly not a baby hater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatie
    If a baby in the womb isn't a human, why do drunk drivers who kill pregnant women get charged with 2 counts of vehicular homicide?
    In some states.

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    Who here disagrees that if there is a heartbeat, it is a living thing?
    Just go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BREW CREW
    Who here disagrees that if there is a heartbeat, it is a living thing?
    I wouldn't disagree..

    I do consider myself prolife however I would be in favor of somebody getting an abortion if certain situations might call for it... (i.e. cases of rape, possible endangerment to the mother's life..etc) not in favor of someone having one just because Suzie Screw caved in and let Johnny poke her without a condom

 

 

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