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    Tehran plans nuclear weapon test by March

    Tehran plans nuclear weapon test by March

    WASHINGTON, Jan. 19 (UPI) -- Tehran is planning a nuclear weapons test before the Iranian New Year on March 20, 2006 says a group opposed to the regime in Tehran.

    The Foundation for Democracy citing sources in the U.S and Iran offered no further information.

    The FDI quotes sources in Iran that the high command of the Revolutionary Guards Air Force have issued new orders to Shahab-3 missile units, ordering them to move mobile missile launchers every 24 hours in view of a potential pre-emptive strike by the U.S. or Israel. The order was issued Tuesday, Jan. 16.

    The group says the launchers move only at night, and have been instructed to change their positions "in a radius of 30 to 35 kilometers." Prior to the new orders the Shahab-3 units changed position on a weekly basis. Advance Shahab-3 units have been positioned in Kermanshah and Hamadan province, within striking distance of Israel. Reserve mobile launchers have been moved to Esfahan and Fars province.

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    So I guess they lied about only wanting the technology to make electricity... Who would have guessed?!?
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    if this is true and not just guesswork, or faulty intelligence, this could be a huge crisis. What will the UN do about this? Admittedly, we already kind of fucked up Iraq. Now what will we do about this? At least we do have over a 100,000 troops nearby. But if we pull out of Iraq, what's to stop Iran from taking over Iraq or even worse, merging into one nation?

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    they'll never make it to march with their technology..
    Israel doesnt mess around and they arent beholden to whining liberals who are more into hugging tree's and supporting ridiculous regimes than they are to their own nation!!

    Un fortunately, this will escalate things..and we need to be moving out of iraq to deal with tehran and iran..
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    perticelli, if the Israelis could have stopped Iran they would have done so long before now. Iran learned a few things from its neighbor, and didn't make the same mistakes that culminated on the Israeli airstrike on Iraq in 1981.

    Zorba, why weren't you asking that question about Iran back in 2002? It was as obvious then as it is now.

    Iran going nuclear just isn't a surprise. We've known it was going to happen for years now. All a person has to do is read a newspaper.

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    MikeL, with all due respect, why do you think israel could've done it long ago and what is it that iran learned that can prevent israel from striking at will?

    If anyone hasnt noticed, tensions in the mideast are pretty high, especially with israel and palesrtine...israel just bombing for no real cause would only exacerbate the whole issue even more..

    and further, to bomb something that didnt take alot of investment, both time, money and dealmaking isnt really a deterrent..you wait until they get real close, spent all their resources and THEN you destroy it..makes em think twice about rebuilding..just look at the twin towers for proof...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL
    perticelli, if the Israelis could have stopped Iran they would have done so long before now. Iran learned a few things from its neighbor, and didn't make the same mistakes that culminated on the Israeli airstrike on Iraq in 1981.

    Zorba, why weren't you asking that question about Iran back in 2002? It was as obvious then as it is now.

    Iran going nuclear just isn't a surprise. We've known it was going to happen for years now. All a person has to do is read a newspaper.
    I had been hearing about this for years, but especially because of Iraq and the WMDs, I didn't trust info about it.

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    Well I think that the reason why Israel has not struck Iran is basically it has been told not to. Why would Israel not retaliate against the SCUD attacks in 1991? Pressure from Washington.

    I think everybody in the world agrees that the worse scenerio is for Israel to attack Iran. You can eliminate 10 years of peace talks with the Palestines.

    However if it happens, we might as well take Iran out. Its going to happen sooner or later. Might as well have a big brawl and divide Iraq and Iran between China, Russia, USA and the rest of the west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perticelli
    MikeL, with all due respect, why do you think israel could've done it long ago and what is it that iran learned that can prevent israel from striking at will?
    Perhaps it has something to do with not having one big honking reactor sitting in the middle of the desert? Iran has been hiding their program, and has kept it decentralized.

    If anyone hasnt noticed, tensions in the mideast are pretty high, especially with israel and palesrtine...israel just bombing for no real cause would only exacerbate the whole issue even more..
    Yes, funny, isn't it? Problems in Palestine make it politically difficult for the Israelis to do anything. Guess who's been behind those difficulties? You might recall a certain ship that was caught carrying certain items linked to a certain country a couple of years back.

    and further, to bomb something that didnt take alot of investment, both time, money and dealmaking isnt really a deterrent..you wait until they get real close, spent all their resources and THEN you destroy it..makes em think twice about rebuilding..just look at the twin towers for proof...
    It's damn difficult to understand what you're saying at times. How the WTC fits into this I don't know. They'd been around for thirty years, weren't a nuclear installation, and didn't have anything to do with the problems and politics associated with nuclear proliferation.

    It's generally a bad idea to drop explosives on a nuclear reactor. That's why the Israelis bombed the Iraqi reactor before it became operational.

    If you think any nation can stop Iran at this point, you're harboring some serious delusions. The world is not a friendly place, and nuclear proliferation is going to make it a lot less friendly in the 21st century. The genie is out of the bottle, and it's not just Iran that's working on the bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZORBA5150
    Admittedly, we already kind of fucked up Iraq. Now what will we do about this? At least we do have over a 100,000 troops nearby. But if we pull out of Iraq, what's to stop Iran from taking over Iraq or even worse, merging into one nation?
    I think your second two questions really tie back to your first a little more closely than you realize.

    There are certainly things that we could have done better in Iraq, but Iran is, has been, and will continue to be the most alarming nation in that region as it concerns our own security here. That much has been realized for decades.
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    Sort of a general observation - Growing up in the 80s we were all pretty certain some sort of nuclear appoclalypse would happen in the next 20 years or so. Now I don't think a worldwide nuclear war is all that likely, but I think the odds of one nuke going off somewhere in the world are probably higher than ever.

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    Consider the source of this article. UPI is owned by the Moonies and they are financial partners of the Bush Criminal Empire. To say their news coverage is skewed would be an understatement. And this "Foundation for Democracy" is yet another sub-group of PNAC, the traitorous bastards who are destroying our country with their illegal and treasonous as Hell Likud driven foreign policies.

    In short, there are no facts here, only rumors and anonymous sources, the likes of which Eddymon could have pulled out of his ass. And as we learned in Iraq, BCE sources are just about as credible as he is.
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    The article itself isn't at all meaningful. Where it came from has little to do with the fact that Iran will join the club of nuclear nations at some point in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZORBA5150
    What will the UN do about this?
    Send the Iranians a semi-sternly worded letter. That'll show 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatie
    Tehran plans nuclear weapon test by March

    WASHINGTON, Jan. 19 (UPI) -- Tehran is planning a nuclear weapons test before the Iranian New Year on March 20, 2006 says a group opposed to the regime in Tehran.......

    This is complete rubbish.

    As I have said before, the Iranian govrnment will eventually back down. But for not wanting to lose face at home or with allies it will put up a very determined resistance at first and then cool things down. Relations are getting worse with every passing day, but there will be a turning point. Iran is not North Korea. It has a completely different social fabric and completely different needs as a develping nation. So it cannot afford to turn its back to the world.

    There are many things happening here that you don't hear about. Everyone knows that a few bombs went off in Ahvaz today (I was there yesterday on business!!!!!!), just a day before the Presidents visit. But what not many people outside of Iran know is that this is not the first instance of problems in Ahvaz or other cities that are being toured by the Cabinet.

    By the way, what MikeL has said about lessons learned from the bombing of the Iraqi reactor is completly true. Also there are very complex dynamics going on in this region. Both the US and UK have invested heavily in the UAE which in turn is very dependent on trade with Iran. If there is war in Iran, and if the Bushehr Reactor is hit by Israel (especially after it is operational) then that whole region is under the risk of contamination. The UAE's prime source of water is the Persian Gulf. The combination of war and nuclear contamination would seriously damage the UAE's economy. They really don't need that because they are already going through a property slump. None of the multinationals who have set up shop in the UAE want that either.

    Missiles are not the answer to this problem. If the US plans to effect change in Iran, I have a feeling that they may go back to some of the old school methods, like a Coup.
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