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    UNIONDALE, N.Y. — Brother Kenneth M. Hoagland had heard all the stories about prom-night debauchery at his Long Island high school: Students putting down $10,000 to rent a party house in the Hamptons. Pre-prom cocktail parties followed by a trip to the dance in a liquor-loaded limo. Fathers chartering a boat for their children's late-night "booze cruise."

    Enough was enough, Hoagland said. So the principal of Kellenberg Memorial High School canceled the spring prom in a 2,000-word letter to parents this fall.

    "It is not primarily the sex/booze/drugs that surround this event, as problematic as they might be; it is rather the flaunting of affluence, assuming exaggerated expenses, a pursuit of vanity for vanity's sake — in a word, financial decadence," Hoagland said, fed up with what he called the "bacchanalian aspects."

    "Each year it gets worse — becomes more exaggerated, more expensive, more emotionally traumatic," he added. "We are withdrawing from the battle and allowing the parents full responsibility. (Kellenberg) is willing to sponsor a prom, but not an orgy."

    The move brought a mixed, albeit passionate, reaction from students and parents at the Roman Catholic school, which is owned by the Society of Mary (Marianists), a religious order of priests and brothers.

    "I don't think it's fair, obviously, that they canceled prom," said senior Alyssa Johnson of Westbury. "There are problems with the prom, but I don't think their reasons or the actions they took solved anything."

    Hoagland began talking about the future of the prom last spring after 46 Kellenberg seniors made a $10,000 down payment on a $20,000 rental in the Hamptons for a post-prom party. When school officials found out, they forced the students to cancel the deal; the kids got their money back and the prom went on as planned.

    But some parents went ahead and rented a Hamptons house anyway, Hoagland said.

    Amy Best, an associate professor of sociology and anthropology at George Mason University in Virginia and the author of "Prom Night: Youth, Schools and Popular Culture," said this is the first time she has heard of a school canceling the prom for such reasons.

    "A lot of people have lamented the growing consumption that surrounds the prom," she said, noting it is not uncommon for students to pay $1,000 on the dance and surrounding folderol: expensive dresses, tuxedo rentals, flowers, limousines, pre- and post-prom parties.

    Best pinned some of the blame for the burgeoning costs on parents, who are often willing to open their wallets for whatever their child demands. "It is a huge misperception that the kids themselves are totally driving this."

    Edward Lawson, the father of a Kellenberg senior, said he and other parents are discussing whether to organize a prom without the sponsorship of the 2,500-student school.

    "This is my fourth child to go through Kellenberg and I don't think they have a right to judge what goes on after the prom," he said. "They put everybody in the category of drinkers and drug addicts. I don't believe that's the right thing to do."

    Some parents waiting to pick up their children on a recent afternoon said they support Hoagland.

    "The school has excellent values," said Margaret Cameron of Plainview. "We send our children here because we support the values and the administration of the school and I totally back everything they do."

    Hoagland said in an interview that parents, who pay $6,025 in annual tuition, have expressed appreciation for his stern stand. "For some, it (the letter) was an eye-opener," he said. "Others feel relieved that the pressure is off of them."

    Chris Laine, a senior from Rockville Centre, said the cancellation was "unfortunate, but you can't really argue with the facts they present. ... It's just what it's evolved into. It's not what it was 20, 30 or 40 years ago. It's turned into something it wasn't originally intended to be."

    Besides, Laine noted, the senior class still has a four-day trip to Disney World scheduled for April.

    "We go to all the parks with our friends," he said just before hopping into his jet-black Infiniti and driving off to meet friends for an after-school snack. "We fly down together and stay in the same hotel and so it's not like we're totally losing everything."
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    Wow, interesting article!!!

    I didn't realize that some kids went that extreme with prom night. Mine was 16 years ago and yeah stuff went on but renting a house for $10,000, that's just nuts.
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    Sounds to me that some seriously spoiled kids attend that school and money is no object to them. I read in to the facts as it's the parents trying to do the old "one-up's manship" type deal.

    Little Johnny's parents spent "X" amount on prom stuff, so Little Billy's are going to top that just to show who has deeper pockets.

    The frightening thing is that most of those kids probably don't appreciate a damn thing they have and expect it to be done for them in this fashion.
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    Sounds like that Sweet 16 show that's on. It's disgusting. I avoid it like the plauge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo
    Wow, interesting article!!!

    I didn't realize that some kids went that extreme with prom night. Mine was 16 years ago and yeah stuff went on but renting a house for $10,000, that's just nuts.
    We ARE talking about the hammmmmptons dahling...

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    That Principal dosen`t seems to understand the Ins and Outs of putting on a prom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad
    We ARE talking about the hammmmmptons dahling...

    bleh
    I've heard a little and of course, seen "White Chicks".. but is it really that bad??
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    That's hysterical. It is true that some parents are willing to blow thousands for their kids on after prom stuff, which is ridiculous. I didn't do anything like that though. My after-prom activities consisted of a 45 min drive to the nearest White Castle at 4am while receiving road head. Which I guess is something their also trying to put a stop to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vh_chick
    Sounds like that Sweet 16 show that's on. It's disgusting. I avoid it like the plauge.

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    exactly what is sounds like! bunch of spoiled fucking brats. just madness to give your kids that kind of cash. sickning.
    what happend to busting one out in the back seat of you car?

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    There's KIDS driving around here in H2s for fuckssake. Who in their right mind would buy a car like that for their 16 year-old kid!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstring
    There's KIDS driving around here in H2s for fuckssake. Who in their right mind would buy a car like that for their 16 year-old kid!?!?!
    I completely agree with this sixstring. There were kids in my neighborhood driving around in Hummers and Escalades. When I turned 16 I got a job and made car payments on my $15K Mustang, and got laughed at cause I had a cheap car. Funny thing is that my parents could have afforded to buy me a car, but in all honesty I'm 100% glad they didn't. It tought me responsibility because I was forced to make payments, and I had a sense of pride in the fact that I bought my car. I guess some parents are just crazy. However, giving your kid some beater like a Tempo is one thing, but if you buy you're kid a fuckin Hummer or Mercedes, you're crazy.
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    I used to do personal tutoring for the SAT's, with Jr.'s and Sr's in HS at their houses. I'd say about 1/3 of these kids were driving nicer cars than I was. One stood out - the kid lived in a development on Andover (pretty big money area) Country Club, and when he was giving me directions, part of them was "you'll see my car in the driveway". What kind of car, I asked? A 2000 Hummer (this was in 2000, mind you). From our conversations, he had just finished his summer living on his parents' boat on Boston Harbor. He went to a private extremely prestigious school for lots and lots of money per year, probably more than most of us spent on college.

    Now, before we bemoan the end of civilization, he was doing a summer honors project at MIT, and it was easier to commute to MIT from Boston Harbor than Andover. He also was doing 10 weeks of tutoring with me to try to improve on his 760 on his math, out of 800. He knew more of the math than I did, LOL. This kid was going to go to MIT or wherever he wanted to on a full academic ride, and I believe ended up with either an 800 or a 790 on his SAT math section. And probably pretty close to that on the verbals, he was the smartest kid I've ever tutored. I'm sure he's heading into a huge $ position now, and will end up with a PhD or something.

    Interesting - spoiled as a mutherfucker, but didn't show it in the slightest. Might be culture, he was Indian (as in country, not Native American), but not, to my knowledge, from India. Parents had a slight accent, he had none. Good people, just a couple dozen tax brackets above me

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstring
    There's KIDS driving around here in H2s for fuckssake. Who in their right mind would buy a car like that for their 16 year-old kid!?!?!
    Man, there's H2s, brand effin new Mustangs, and then the crappy ass Geo Compacts in my high school parking lot!


    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo
    I didn't realize that some kids went that extreme with prom night.

    Oh, it goes back as far a jr. high now! I'm not saying what all happened, but a slut-ass bitch screwed up the whole party I went to!
    So you broke down, trying to leave town, I broke down crying on your return. You left me feeling hopeful, I'll never see your face again. You made for a bad lover's liver. You stole all the covers and busted my head. You made me such an asshole, I wish we'd never met. I'm tired of being bored. I'm through with the headaches. Hiding my hands that tremble like earthquakes. Under the table, under the daytime sky, Good Fucking Bye- Good Fucking Bye, Alkaline Trio

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    I agree with ya there but most of them around this part of the world are just the spoiled part...
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    Blame the parents for this. Unreal.

 

 

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