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    On Fire Van Heineken's Avatar
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    I saw Ed's comments via the 2Dorks, basically saying he doesn't care what the fans think, and it occured to me that Van Halen is probably the least fan friendly band in the history of rock n roll. Seriously, can anyone think of a band that treats their fans worse or has a lesser opinion of the people that bought their product over the years?

    Whether it's Ed sueing someone for striping a skateboard or years of silence, this band literally feels no obligation to demonstrate any appreciation for the people who made them what they are. Yes, I understand the argument that we can respond in kind by not buying their product, but Van Halen is so obvious in this regard. When they've got something to sell, it's all about the fans. When they've got nothing to sell, they could give two shits about keeping us in the loop or appearing fan friendly. Even worse, this attitude translates into the products they release. While Van Halen fans long for a top quality US Festival DVD, box set with unreleased rarities or even a DVD of the 2004 fiasco, we get obvious cash grabs like BOBW and striped phase pedals instead.

    Obviously, these guys need a manager, because when it comes to being fan friendly, they're certainly not going to do it on their own. Being a VH fan these days is akin to being a fan of the Clippers, a minimal return for your fan investment.
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    Being a Van Halen fan builds character.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen
    Being a Van Halen fan builds character.


    You got that right.
    “Bring on a brand new Renaissance...cos I think I'm ready."

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    It's not the best music I've ever heard; but it's sure as fuck the best porno music I've ever heard!

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    so many people shit on the guy about his playing or whatever, or his drinkin' or smokin'....
    almost can't blame the guy...some people here always shittin' on the guy too...he gets ripped no matter what he does it seems...

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    This is a story bout billy joe and bobby sue, two dutch brothers with fans they like to screw. Sit around the house, get high and watch the tube. This is what happened when they decided to cut loose .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................( birds chirping)......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by muffdiver
    so many people shit on the guy about his playing or whatever, or his drinkin' or smokin'....
    almost can't blame the guy...some people here always shittin' on the guy too...he gets ripped no matter what he does it seems...
    Agreed, but Van Halen is a group, not one guy. What's the excuse for the rest of them? Bottom line: if they were a company and they treated their customers like this, they'd have no customers. The reason Van Halen can get away with this IMO is because Van Halen fans are extremely loyal to a fault. When your first ten or eleven albums go platinum, you probably arrive at the conclusion that these people will buy anything we put out regardless of how we treat them, which would help to explain 96 and the whole III debacle.
    “Bring on a brand new Renaissance...cos I think I'm ready."

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    Quote Originally Posted by weesfreewheelin
    This is a story bout billy joe and bobby sue, two dutch brothers with fans they like to screw. Sit around the house, get high and watch the tube. This is what happened when they decided to cut loose .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................( birds chirping)......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......
    LMAO
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    its tough to argue these points.
    Ed doesnt care, he thinks noone understands him and are out to use him...

    note to Ed:
    You do your part, we'll do ours. You have the gift, we want the music. We have the cash and we spend freely. There's no need for a relationship if you dont want one, as long as you do your part and release a new albuym and tour every couple years.If you want it cold, this is the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muffdiver
    so many people shit on the guy about his playing or whatever, or his drinkin' or smokin'....
    almost can't blame the guy...some people here always shittin' on the guy too...he gets ripped no matter what he does it seems...
    Well, he has also been very self-absorbed, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I will say that VH is the worst band ever (or one of) PR wise. Whatever the case may be, we deserve better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Heineken
    Agreed, but Van Halen is a group, not one guy. What's the excuse for the rest of them? Bottom line: if they were a company and they treated their customers like this, they'd have no customers. The reason Van Halen can get away with this IMO is because Van Halen fans are extremely loyal to a fault. When your first ten or eleven albums go platinum, you probably arrive at the conclusion that these people will buy anything we put out regardless of how we treat them, which would help to explain 96 and the whole III debacle.
    Nobody tried harder to make it work then Sammy, and Mike was right behind him. Alex is the only man alive who can motivate Eddie, but he doesn't give a shit himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ain't Talkin' Bout' Love
    Nobody tried harder to make it work then Sammy, and Mike was right behind him. Alex is the only man alive who can motivate Eddie, but he doesn't give a shit himself.
    Yep, and how hard it is to do something like release a DVD of the US Festival gig? Triumph did it and those guys absolutely hate each other and to my knowledge, they're not even a working band at this point. It's like Ed and Alex have just decided that nothing featuring Dave will ever come out of the vaults because that would just stir up rumors that they may be reuniting.

    Well, I've got news for ya Ed. The VH disc I've listened to the most in the last couple years is Zero: the original demos. Where there's a will, there's a way, so if you won't release the good stuff, we'll just have ta steal it.
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    Dutch for "Take the money and run" is: Pak het geld en ren.
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    Some of you just have to get a grip....BE a Van Halen fan because you LOVE the music.... we choose to be VH fans..and most VH fans I know are true hardcore fans....but really, why does Eddie or any other member have to give a rats ass about the fans...they made the music..they did the tours...we bought the music, we paid for the tickets...thats that...they "owe us NOTHING MORE....as far as Eddie...me personally, think the man is a musical gift to us..I met him waaaay back in 1982 for about 10 minutes..he was nice, polite...I didn't expect anything more....I mean, he's human.. a very talented but screwed up human with problems and addictions...ever read DLR's Crazy From The Heat book? He says, "As a guitar player, Eddie Van Halen is a genuis, but he's a pretty crummy human being (not the exact quote) and who knew him better? Dave bitter when he wrote the book? Probably. But I can't help believe that what he said about EVH is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weesfreewheelin
    This is a story bout billy joe and bobby sue, two dutch brothers with fans they like to screw. Sit around the house, get high and watch the tube. This is what happened when they decided to cut loose .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................( birds chirping)......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......


    That's a good one!!


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    Who knows, he could be very happy releasing another CD but things we don't know about makes it difficult.
    Perhaps he feels like taking a couple of year off to be with his son or whatever.
    Just because he's gifted, does that mean he needs to provide us with material all the time?
    One of the previous 2dorks interviews he said something like "c'mon, we just ended a long tour" - to me that sounds like he just needs some time off.
    For him "some time" could very well be 3 years, what do we know?

    We want fan interaction but for what?
    If Ed doesn't have any news, why should he make interviews or being fan interactive? - I wouldn't if I was in his shoes..
    (If I was, I'd change shoes for a start..)
    Would we be happier if he stated that he needs a long break and no plans for a tour within reasonable time?
    Isn't it better to not know and still hope for the best rather than knowing its over? - Just a thought
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