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    The Justice Department is investigating whether a naturalized U.S. citizen from the Philippines stole classified documents while he worked in the office of Vice President Cheney and provided the information to opposition politicians in Manila, Bush administration officials said yesterday.

    The possibility that Leandro Aragoncillo was passing the material while stationed as a U.S. Marines security official at the White House marks a dramatic expansion of the case against him and a former Philippines police official, Michael Ray Aquino. Both were arrested and charged in federal court in Newark last month with sending classified information obtained this year to the Philippines -- more than two years after Aragoncillo left the White House and had gone to work as an FBI intelligence analyst.

    Officials from the White House, Justice Department and FBI declined to comment late yesterday, other than to confirm that Aragoncillo first went to work at the White House in 1999 when Al Gore was vice president. ABC News reported last night that Aragoncillo had admitted taking classified documents while he worked in Cheney's office, but officials with the FBI and U.S. attorney's office in Newark declined to comment on the report.

    Former Philippines president Joseph Estrada, who was forced from office four years ago by mass demonstrations, has acknowledged receiving documents from Aragoncillo while the suspect was still in the U.S. Marines. Estrada told a Philippine newspaper last month that Aragoncillo had passed on material while visiting him at the Veterans Memorial Medical Center in Manila, where the former president was receiving treatment while being held on corruption charges from 2001 through 2003. Part of that stay would coincide with Aragoncillo's time in Cheney's office. Estrada remains under house arrest.

    The prosecutions of Aragoncillo and Aquino have ignited a political firestorm in the Philippines, and officials from the two countries say the United States is now caught in a feud between President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and rivals pressing to force her from office.

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    Federal prosecutors in New Jersey charged last month that Aragoncillo conspired with Aquino to steal more than 100 documents this year from the FBI, CIA and State Department. The men are accused of feeding classified material about the Philippines to politicians seeking to topple the government.

    Aragoncillo retired in 2004 after 21 years as a U.S. Marine and began working for the FBI as an intelligence analyst. Reports apparently based on the classified material allegedly downloaded by Aragoncillo are being published in the Philippines. The reports reveal not only sources of sensitive U.S. information but include frank and unflattering assessments of Philippine leaders.

    In once such report published in a Manila newspaper, comments attributed to diplomats at the U.S. Embassy described Arroyo as weak and overbearing with little popular credibility. Her vice president was called inept and unfit to take her place. Clandestine discussions among dissident soldiers were detailed and the president's chances of surviving a coup were weighed.

    Aragoncillo, 46, and Aquino, 39, were arrested in New Jersey on Sept. 10 and are being held without bail. Aquino, a former deputy director of the Philippines National Police and a Philippine national, is slated to be formally indicted in the case in Newark today, according to one law enforcement official.

    A criminal complaint filed in the U.S. District Court in New Jersey charges that Aragoncillo shared the classified documents with Aquino as well as with two high-level Philippine public officials and a third former high-level Philippine official. With speculation raging in Manila about their identities, U.S. prosecutors have yet to reveal the names.

    "We're talking about opposition people and their desire to replace the current administration," said a U.S.-based American official familiar with the investigation, speaking on condition of anonymity because the case is ongoing. "They're not inside the current administration." The official said that those who received the information would be identified after the case goes to trial.

    But several prominent critics of Arroyo's government have acknowledged that they obtained information from Aragoncillo and Aquino.

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    Senator Panfilo "Ping" Lacson, who unsuccessfully challenged Arroyo in the presidential election last year, said in an interview that he had received e-mails from Aquino. Lacson, a retired national police chief, had headed a special anti-organized crime task force and Aquino had been a senior aide.

    Lacson said some of the e-mails Aquino sent were widely distributed to current and former members of the Philippines national police force while others were personal communications. He added he did not consider the information to be sensitive intelligence, calling it nothing unusual.

    "This was classified because it would embarrass the United States. There are opinions provided by certain officials of the United States government," he explained.

    Although he said he had no direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation, Lacson said he expected he would be named in the United States as one of the three Philippine officials sent material by Aragoncillo and Aquino.

    Estrada, the former president, said in a statement published in the Philippine Daily Inquirer that the information was "non-classified" and said he was unaware of any illegal activity by Aragoncillo.

    "Why would they include me in that mess? I know nothing about issues involving him," Estrada told the newspaper.

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    The Phillippines?...The Phillippines?!?

    You mean to tell me that we can't find bin Laden but the Phillippines can get a guy in the White House and keep him there for six years? The Phillippines?

    I mean, the closest the KGB ever got to the White House was Hillary.

    Damn.....the Phillippines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300
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    I mean, the closest the KGB ever got to the White House was Hillary.

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    this is the very reason why naturalized citizens should never be allowed in the US military or high level government positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sisca
    this is the very reason why naturalized citizens should never be allowed in the US military or high level government positions.
    I dissagree. Somebody failed on a backround check and other failed to keep things updated in the security department.

    There are many foriegners and naturalized citizens serving honorably in the U.S. Armed Forces. They would be the first ones in like for this POS's firing squad. I can name an Irish national, a Canadian national, a Swedish national and a couple of "illegals" from Mexico whom I've interviewed for my book. These guys are kick-ass mutherfuckers of the highest order, willing to die for their new country.

    Give me a guy who will fight, I don't care where he's from.

    Plus, the worst spies in our nation's history are all home grown, this underlines the basic issue which is counter-intelligence. The FBI and the DIA fucked up somewhere along the line. I see no reason to taint honest immagrants with this assclown's stink.
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    [QUOTE=Axxman300]

    I mean, the closest the KGB ever got to the White House was Hillary.

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    I had to chuckle out loud reading that.
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    One thing that many people don't understand is that our military has a very large number of foreign-born members and non-citizen members. Something like 100,000 of the former, and within that 30,000 of the later. I my small unit, we had a German, a Mexican, and a Columbian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300
    Plus, the worst spies in our nation's history are all home grown, this underlines the basic issue which is counter-intelligence. The FBI and the DIA fucked up somewhere along the line. I see no reason to taint honest immagrants with this assclown's stink.

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