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    Mellencamp, Miles Among Rock Hall Nominees

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    By Barry A. Jeckell, N.Y.



    Rock veteran John Mellencamp, jazz legend Miles Davis and rap pioneers Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five are among the 15 acts being considered for the 21st class of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. Artists are eligible 25 years after the release of their first record.

    The field of artists making up this year's ballot is rounded out by Blondie, Cat Stevens, the Patti Smith Group, the Sex Pistols, the Stooges, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Black Sabbath, the Dave Clark Five, the J. Geils Band, Chic, Joe Tex and the Sir Douglas Quintet.

    Inductees are selected by a panel of musicians, music industry professionals and journalists. Results are generally announced before the end of the year, with formal induction traditionally taking place in March at a ceremony in New York.

    This year, performers Buddy Guy, the O'Jays, the Pretenders, Percy Sledge and U2 joined the Rock Hall, as did concert promoter Frank Barsalona and Sire Records co-founder Seymour Stein. Highlights of the ceremony at New York's Waldorf Astoria hotel were broadcast by VH1.


    Surprised no one's talking about this in here.

    John Mellencamp - sure

    Miles Davis - ah, he's a musical genius, a legend and all, but rock 'n roll? I know there are some big time Miles Davis fans around here - help us out - is this a legitimate pick or does Miles Davis have about as much to do with rock 'n roll as New York City does with "Southern Hospitality"?

    Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - I respect these guys in the rap genre, but again, about the only thing they have to do with rock is that they sampled some songs from the genre to rap over.

    Blondie - sure

    Cat Stevens - can't deny he did have a good run with his music, but geez...

    the Patti Smith Group - I think so

    the Sex Pistols - there's a lively debate!

    the Stooges - not as big as some others, but I have heard them cited as an influence often.

    Lynyrd Skynyrd - hell yeah!

    Black Sabbath - I thought they wanted no part of this - or did Sharon find a way to make a buck off it?

    the Dave Clark Five - say what? Their biggest (and about only) hit was "Anyway You Want It" and I didn't even like it when KISS did it!

    the J. Geils Band - definitely

    Chic - maybe. Bernard Edwards and Nile Rogers have done a lot of stuff in all forms of popular music.

    Joe Tex - I only know a few songs and he's cool, but comes off as a bit of a James Brown knock-off

    Sir Douglas Quintet - heard of 'em, can't name a single song, even while looking at their discography.

    And of course, everyone wants to know - where's Van Halen?

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    Skynyrd, Sabbath, and the Sex Pistols are no brainers. (say what you want about johnny, sid, and punk, these guys had a major influence on virtually any hard rock act in the late seventies/all of the eighties).

    Mellencamp and Blondie, alternates.

    The rest, iffy.
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    Didn't the Blind Loon start a thread about this? I thought I translated his post re: the incoming inductees.

    Damn shame about those VH brothers. LSD or not, the RRHOF is supposed to recognize the musical contributions of the artist, not worrying about the current state of the band. I know that they're probably questioning what would happen should invites go out and to who and all that. That shouldn't matter.

    They're supposed to recognize the influence and music of the artist. I always thought VH was pretty influential back in the day. They still are according to some of today's musicians. What would VH do if they got the nod?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithjc
    Didn't the Blind Loon start a thread about this? I thought I translated his post re: the incoming inductees.

    Damn shame about those VH brothers. LSD or not, the RRHOF is supposed to recognize the musical contributions of the artist, not worrying about the current state of the band. I know that they're probably questioning what would happen should invites go out and to who and all that. That shouldn't matter.

    They're supposed to recognize the influence and music of the artist. I always thought VH was pretty influential back in the day. They still are according to some of today's musicians. What would VH do if they got the nod?
    If ever...............................
    He didn't start one in this forum if he did!

    I don't think they would base the nominations on who would show up - I mean, hell, if that was a criteria then ol' Yusaf Islam never would've got nominated as I don't think he's even allowed in the country!

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    My bad. It was by Hecubus in Main.
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    saw that...should be interesting to see what Ozzy has to say since he has always said DONT vote for Sabbath. No doubt he shows up talking about how much of an honor it is.

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    This list is the total list, by year of induction, of those in the RRHOF in Cleveland...

    pretty sad VH isnt in ..

    performers
    Chuck Berry
    James Brown
    Ray Charles
    Sam Cooke
    Fats Domino
    The Everly Brothers
    Buddy Holly
    Jerry Lee Lewis
    Elvis Presley
    Little Richard

    early influences
    Robert Johnson
    Jimmie Rodgers
    Jimmy Yancey

    lifetime achievement
    John Hammond

    non-performers
    Alan Freed
    Sam Phillips




    performers
    The Coasters
    Eddie Cochran
    Bo Diddley
    Aretha Franklin
    Marvin Gaye
    Bill Haley
    B. B. King
    Clyde McPhatter
    Ricky Nelson
    Roy Orbison
    Carl Perkins
    Smokey Robinson
    Big Joe Turner
    Muddy Waters
    Jackie Wilson

    early influences
    Louis Jordan
    T-Bone Walker
    Hank Williams

    non-performers
    Leonard Chess
    Ahmet Ertegun
    Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
    Jerry Wexler




    performers
    The Beach Boys
    The Beatles
    The Drifters
    Bob Dylan
    The Supremes

    early influences
    Woody Guthrie
    Lead Belly
    Les Paul

    non-performers
    Berry Gordy, Jr




    performers
    Dion
    Otis Redding
    The Rolling Stones
    The Temptations
    Stevie Wonder

    early influences
    The Inkspots
    Bessie Smith
    The Soul Stirrers

    non-performers
    Phil Spector




    performers
    Hank Ballard
    Bobby Darin
    The Four Seasons
    The Four Tops
    The Kinks
    The Platters
    Simon and Garfunkel
    The Who

    early influences
    Louis Armstrong
    Charlie Christian
    Ma Rainey

    non-performers

    Gerry Goffin and Carole King
    Holland, Dozier and Holland




    performers

    LaVern Baker
    The Byrds
    John Lee Hooker
    The Impressions
    Wilson Pickett
    Jimmy Reed
    Ike and Tina Turner

    early influences
    Howlin' Wolf

    lifetime achievement
    Nesuhi Ertegun

    non-performers
    Dave Bartholomew
    Ralph Bass




    performers
    Bobby "Blue" Bland
    Booker T. and the M.G.'s
    Johnny Cash
    The Isley Brothers
    The Jimi Hendrix Experience
    Sam and Dave
    The Yardbirds

    early influences
    Elmore James
    Professor Longhair

    non-performers
    Leo Fender
    Bill Graham
    Doc Pomus




    performers

    Ruth Brown
    Cream
    Creedence Clearwater Revival
    The Doors
    Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
    Etta James
    Van Morrison
    Sly and the Family Stone

    early influences
    Dinah Washington

    non-performers
    Dick Clark
    Milt Gabler




    performers
    The Animals
    The Band
    Duane Eddy
    The Grateful Dead
    Elton John
    John Lennon
    Bob Marley
    Rod Stewart

    early influences
    Willie Dixon

    non-performers
    Johnny Otis




    performers
    The Allman Brothers Band
    Al Green
    Janis Joplin
    Led Zeppelin
    Martha and the Vandellas
    Neil Young
    Frank Zappa

    early influences
    The Orioles

    non-performers
    Paul Ackerman




    performers
    David Bowie
    Gladys Knight and the Pips
    Jefferson Airplane
    Little Willie John
    Pink Floyd
    The Shirelles
    The Velvet Underground

    early influences
    Pete Seeger

    non-performers
    Tom Donahue




    performers
    The (Young) Rascals
    The Bee Gees
    Buffalo Springfield
    Crosby, Stills and Nash
    The Jackson Five
    Joni Mitchell
    Parliament-Funkadelic

    early influences
    Mahalia Jackson
    Bill Monroe

    non-performers
    Syd Nathan




    performers
    The Eagles
    Fleetwood Mac
    The Mamas and the Papas
    Lloyd Price
    Santana
    Gene Vincent

    early influences
    Jelly Roll Morton

    non-performers

    Allen Toussaint




    performers
    Billy Joel
    Curtis Mayfield
    Paul McCartney
    Del Shannon
    Dusty Springfield
    Bruce Springsteen
    The Staple Singers

    early influences
    Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
    Charles Brown

    non-performers

    George Martin




    performers
    Eric Clapton
    Earth, Wind & Fire
    Lovin' Spoonful
    The Moonglows
    Bonnie Raitt
    James Taylor

    early influences
    Nat "King" Cole
    Billie Holiday

    sidemen
    Hal Blaine
    King Curtis
    James Jamerson
    Scotty Moore
    Earl Palmer

    non-performers
    Clive Davis




    performers
    Aerosmith
    Solomon Burke
    The Flamingos
    Michael Jackson
    Queen
    Paul Simon
    Steely Dan
    Ritchie Valens

    sidemen
    James Burton
    Johnnie Johnson

    non-performers
    Chris Blackwell




    performers
    Isaac Hayes
    Brenda Lee
    Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
    Gene Pitney
    Ramones
    Talking Heads

    sidemen
    Chet Atkins

    non-performers
    Jim Stewart




    performers
    AC/DC
    The Clash
    Elvis Costello & the Attractions
    The Police
    Righteous Brothers

    sidemen
    Benny Benjamin
    Floyd Cramer
    Steve Douglas

    non-performers
    Mo Ostin




    performers
    Jackson Browne
    The Dells
    George Harrison
    Prince
    Bob Seger
    Traffic
    ZZ Top

    lifetime achievement
    Jann S. Wenner




    performers-the current inductee's class
    Buddy Guy
    The O'Jays
    The Pretenders
    Percy Sledge
    U2

    lifetime achievement
    Frank Barsalona
    Seymour Stein

    How the hell can they rationally exclude VH?
    Seriously?

    It kills their Credibility as a legit RRHOF..and Adds to the Cred of THE VHLinks one
    Eddie is the greatest, period

    The Unofficial VHLinks RRHOF

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    I don't think I have a problem with too many of the people that have been inducted into Cleveland, it's more the people that still haven't. I wish they'd post on their website a list of the inductees by year of first release (since that's their criteria anyway) - that would help I think show up where the holes are. But I do think calling themselves the "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" becomes a misnomer with some of the acts as they encompass a lot more than just what you or I would consider rock 'n roll. More like a popular music hall of fame - nothing wrong with that, either. But even that's not completely right, because not every hall-worthy musician or band was necessarily "popular"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007
    Miles Davis - ah, he's a musical genius, a legend and all, but rock 'n roll? I know there are some big time Miles Davis fans around here - help us out - is this a legitimate pick or does Miles Davis have about as much to do with rock 'n roll as New York City does with "Southern Hospitality"?

    Miles Davis does NOT belong in a Rock n' Roll hall of fame. Musical Genuis and Legend, Definatley! But for Jazz, Dammit. Let me know when the Trumpet becomes a mainstream rock instrument and then maybe he could be elligable.

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    Van Halen will get in there someday for sure.
    Right Now you're reading my post!


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    Ugh. Isaac freaking Hayes is there, but VH isn't?

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    Sex Pistols spit on Hall of Fame honor

    By Chris Morris
    The Sex Pistols have opted out on appearing at their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.



    The groundbreaking English punk rock group officially declined the honor -- to be handed out March 13 at a dinner and performance at the Waldorf Astoria in New York -- in a crudely scrawled, mispunctuated handwritten message posted on the band's Web site Friday.


    "Next to the SEX PISTOLS rock and roll and that hall of fame is a piss stain," the statement read. "Your museum. Urine in wine. Were (sic) not coming. Were (sic) not your monkey and so what?"

    The statement slammed Hall of Fame voters as "music industry people," and excoriated the high price of attending the exclusive event -- $25,000 for a table, "or $15,000 to squeak up in the gallery."

    It concluded, "Your (sic) not paying attention. Outside the shit-stem is a real SEX PISTOL."

    Other 2006 inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame include Black Sabbath, Blondie, Miles Davis, Lynyrd Skynyrd and industry executives Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss.

    Susan Evans, executive director of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, said of the band's announcement, "They're being the outrageous punksters that they are, and that's rock 'n' roll."

    The complete statement is posted at www.thefilthandthefury.co.uk

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    Sid would be so proud of his mates.

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    That is simply awesome.

 

 

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