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    NASA to unveil moon plan
    Agency plans to send 4 astronauts to the moon in 2018
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    Thursday, September 15, 2005; Posted: 11:45 a.m. EDT (15:45 GMT)

    (SPACE.com) -- NASA briefed senior White House officials Wednesday on its plan to spend $100 billion and the next 12 years building the spacecraft and rockets it needs to put humans back on the Moon by 2018.

    The space agency now expects to roll out its lunar exploration plan to key Congressional committees on Friday and to the broader public through a news conference on Monday, Washington sources tell SPACE.com.

    U.S. President George W. Bush called in January 2004 for the United States to return to the Moon by 2020 as the first major step in a broader space exploration vision aimed at extending the human presence throughout the solar system.

    NASA has been working intensely since April on an exploration plan that entails building an 18-foot blunt body crew capsule and launchers built from major space shuttle components including the main engines, solid rocket boosters and massive external fuel tanks.

    That plan, called the Exploration Systems Architecture Study, was presented by NASA Administrator Mike Griffin, his space operations chief Bill Gerstenmaier and several other senior agency officials Wednesday afternoon to senior White House policy officials, including an advisor to U.S. Vice President Richard Cheney and the president's Deputy National Security Advisor J.D. Crouch.

    NASA's plan, according to briefing charts obtained by SPACE.com, envisions beginning a sustained lunar exploration campaign in 2018 by landing four astronauts on the Moon for a seven-day stay.

    The expedition would begin, these charts show, by launching the lunar lander and Earth departure stage (essentially a giant propulsion module) on a heavy-lift launch vehicle that would be lifted into orbit by five space shuttle main engines and a pair of five-segment shuttle solid rocket boosters.

    Once the Earth departure stage and lunar lander are safely in orbit, NASA would launch the Crew Exploration Vehicle capsule atop a new launcher built from a four-segment shuttle solid rocket booster and an upper stage powered by a single space shuttle main engine.

    The CEV would then dock with the lunar lander and Earth departure stage and begin its several day journey to the Moon.

    NASA's plan envisions being able to land four-person human crews anywhere on the Moon's surface and to eventually use the system to transport crew members to and from a lunar outpost that it would consider building on the lunar south pole, according to the charts, because of the regions elevated quantities of hydrogen and possibly water ice.

    One of NASA's reasons for going back to the Moon is to demonstrate that astronauts can essentially "live off the land" by using lunar resources to produce potable water, fuel and other valuable commodities.

    Such capabilities are considered extremely important to human expeditions to Mars which, because of the distances involved, would be much longer missions entailing a minimum of 500 days spent on the planet's surface.

    NASA's Crew Exploration Vehicle is expected to cost $5.5 billion to develop, according to government and industry sources, and the Crew Launch Vehicle another $4.5 billion. The heavy-lift launcher, which would be capable of lofting 125 metric tons of payload, is expected to cost more than $5 billion but less than $10 billion to develop, according to these sources.

    NASA's plan also calls for using the Crew Exploration Vehicle, equipped with as many as six seats, to transport astronauts to and from the international space station. An unmanned version of the Crew Exploration Vehicle could be used to deliver a limited amount of cargo to the space station.

    NASA would like to field the Crew Exploration Vehicle by 2011, or within a year of when it plans to fly the space shuttle for the last time. Development of the heavy lift launcher, lunar lander and Earth departure stage would begin in 2011.

    By that time, according to NASA's charts, the space agency would expect to be spending $7 billion a year on its exploration efforts, a figure projected to grow to more than $15 billion a year by 2018, that date NASA has targeted for its first human lunar landing since Apollo 17 in 1972.
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    Amen!!! Beam me up, Scotty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoHalen
    Amen!!! Beam me up, Scotty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoHalen
    One of NASA's reasons for going back to the Moon is to demonstrate that astronauts can essentially "live off the land" by using lunar resources to produce potable water, fuel and other valuable commodities.
    Right. And maybe Pauly Shore will make a visit to film for his new reality series "Biodome II"? No fucking way would I ever live on the moon for more than a week - even if I could get Sportscenter via the dish!

    I think all this NASA BS about establishing humans (read: Americans) on the moon is to call first dibs on the moon's considerable natural resources for exploitation in the very distant future. Perhaps there is also some tactical military advantage to have a presence there?

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    Default nuke the fucking moon.

    it pisses me off.

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    China will be there by 2010

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    great...they're going to use parts from 20 year old shuttles...
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    By 2018, the shuttle parts will be over 40 years old!
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    And it's going to take us 13 years to accomplish something that only took 9 years in the 60's.

    I'm all for going to the moon, but why does it have to take so long? Maybe I'm just being impatient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboBrian
    And it's going to take us 13 years to accomplish something that only took 9 years in the 60's.

    I'm all for going to the moon, but why does it have to take so long?
    It doesn't. It's merely about fiscal priorities in the current political climate. We could feasibly stand on Mars, much less the moon, inside of seven years (including the three year trip) if enough bigwigs had the motivation. Should it ever be discovered there are significant oil reserves at the base of Olympus Mons, we'd be there lickety split.

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    China will be there by 2010
    Great! Our guys can get some decent take-out. The other restaurant there is okay, but it doesn't have any atmosphere.
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    The 2018 thing got me to, if im not mistaken we did something like this about 36 years ago, it's not like they need direction's on how to get there!

 

 

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