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    Default Holdsworth & McLaughlin On Eddie (GP-10/05)

    The subject of Eddie Van Halen pops up in an interview with Allan Holdsworth and John McLaughlin in the current issue of Guitar Player magazine with Yngwie Malmsteen on the cover.

    Mclaughlin:..........Allan was also a huge influence on the next generation of rock guitarists. I believe Eddie Van Halen, for example, got a lot from him.

    Holdsworth: I don't know if he did or not. I'm pretty sure whatever influence I had wasn't from the beginning, because when I was on the road with U.K. we played with Van Halen before they had become famous, and Eddiealready had a lot of that going on before he ever heard me.

    McLaughlin: However it happened, Eddie is a great player, and I feel that what he's done for pop guitar - particularly his solo on Michael Jackson's "Beat It" - is really good.....



    Uh...don't freak out about the "pop guitar" phrase, John McLaughlin is a hardcore fusion artist. To him, even Steve Vai is a pop guitarist.
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    Yeah, "pop" meant something different back then....it was more "cool" than what it is thought of today.
    Those cats are cool and very good guitar players/musicians.
    Remember when Dance the Night Away was a "pop" tune?
    Just go for it!

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    Nice..., three guitar legends..., make it four with Yngwie on the cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenCarpenter
    Nice..., three guitar legends..., make it four with Yngwie on the cover.

    Actually, that would amount to five , counting Yngwie and his ego.

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    Even a Fusion guitarist should be easily familiar with a silo filled with EVH tracks...tunes with practically household recognition...and he cites the solo from Michael Jackson's "Beat It" ??? mmmmmmmk
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    'Dance the Night Away' is still a pop tune. A hard rock pop tune , but still a pop tune.

    Speaking of egos.....

    We played a gig at the State Fair this year and all the band members recieved tickets to get in the fair plus some extra tickets for free.

    One of the guys in the band says to our sax player as he's handing out the tickets,

    " I got you two tickets. One for you and one for your high horse."

    Classic......

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    If they dont get Dave or Sam back...

    NOW is the time for an Eddie Van HAlen/Allan Holdsworth all out jazz rock collaboration.

    NOW Eddie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James in New York
    If they dont get Dave or Sam back...

    NOW is the time for an Eddie Van HAlen/Allan Holdsworth all out jazz rock collaboration.

    NOW Eddie!
    I don't think so, as I recall the last "collaboration" ending on a sour note, and Holdsworth voicing his displeasure with EVH in a couple of guitar mags (sorry, this was like 20 years ago, and I can't remember the articles, yet Allen did not speak all too kindly of Ed.)

    Anybody?

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    I remember Eddie talking about it in the mags, too...saying Allan wouldn't wait for him to get off the road or something and that Allan just went ahead and made the same album he makes every year...

    But they should do something together. Now's Eddie's chance to explore more.

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    Allan said he didn't want a quote from eddie on the cover of his record.
    Not b/c he doesn't respect ed, but he thought it would cheapen it, and I
    agree with that ( though I wouldn't have been so principled ).

    Allan was probably my fave player in the late 80s and it was Ed who turned
    me on to him. McLaughlin is fantastic and I encourage everyone (again)
    to pick up the 3 "trio" records (the first two, fer sure) with Paco & DiMeola
    for some of the most awesome acoustic gtr stuff ever. Like Spanish Fly?
    They got you covered, bro.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig
    Actually, that would amount to five , counting Yngwie and his ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James in New York
    I remember Eddie talking about it in the mags, too...saying Allan wouldn't wait for him to get off the road or something and that Allan just went ahead and made the same album he makes every year...

    But they should do something together. Now's Eddie's chance to explore more.
    Eddie wanted to produce Allan's record and said he wouldn't wait for VH to get off the road within a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m e a n s t r e e t
    Even a Fusion guitarist should be easily familiar with a silo filled with EVH tracks...tunes with practically household recognition...and he cites the solo from Michael Jackson's "Beat It" ??? mmmmmmmk

    It's probably the first thing that came to his mind when they did the interview. It should be pointed out that the "Beat It" solo broke Van Halen to a global audience, from that point on everybody knew who Eddie was and that he was a kick-ass guitar player. I was in college when 1984 came out, that followed the "Thriller" album and I remember walking across the quad to class and hearing "Top Jimmy" blasting from a boom-box. I looked in the direction of the sound expecting to see either Italians or rednecks with mullets, instead there were 12 or more black dudes rocking out. That's how big "Beat It" was to Van Halen.

    Also, John McLaughnlin is a guy who lives on another planet anyway, he's one of those guys who's on a visionquest, constantly pushing himself to the next level of excellence. The one knock I have with him is that he can't seem to lighten up. On the Clapton "Crossroads" DVD, everybody else stripped down and played some blues, not McLaughlin, he came out and did his own thing. As good as it was, I would have much rather seen him do a classic blues song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig
    Actually, that would amount to five , counting Yngwie and his ego.

    ...craig
    According to Dave and Sam..., the count is now six.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James in New York
    If they dont get Dave or Sam back...

    NOW is the time for an Eddie Van HAlen/Allan Holdsworth all out jazz rock collaboration.

    NOW Eddie!
    Eddie tried to Jam at GIT with Holdsworth, but Eddie just doesn't have the right voice for that style of play. He was repeating his same ol trademark licks over and over whether they fit the music or not. Against Holdsworth Eddie was way out of his league. Holdsworth has so much more phrasing and harmonic ability. He can play a C-chord in about 50 different positions.

    Eddie is obviously amazing when doing his thing, but whe he jams with others sometimes it just doesn't mesh. Of no fault or inadequecy of his own.

 

 

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