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    "As for the fans, some fans never accepted Sammy! If they're not going to accept Gary, fine. Then listen to the Roth records, and if you like Sammy, buy those records. We're moving on. And the fans are not going to dictate who I work with. All I want to do is make music, and hopefully touch somebody with it. If you want the old, buy the old. You want the new, buy the new if you like it. But nobody's going to force me to do something I don't want to do, because them it wouldn't be honest to our fans. I have to make music from my heart with the people I enjoy doing it with. If we went on the road with Roth, it would be an embarrassment-it would be ripping off our fans. If we started in Toledo, Ohio, we'd never make it to Cleveland. After the first gig, people would go, "I want my money back!" Some things are just better left to memory, period. And the memories are great. I mean, in a lot of people's minds, the memory of it is more vivid than the reality. It just ain't there, man. It just ain't there." - Eddie Van Halen, Guitar, January 1997.

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    I think I speak for EVERY human on earth when I say: Where ALL hypocrites.

    The difference between us "normal" people and famous people is that the famous ones like Eddie, have our hypocricy displayed for all to see in periodicals such as Guitar magazine...


    Let's give Ed a break on this shall we?



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    I think it's a great quote and shows that Eddie is an artist. Hopefully he's been able to find a spark with Dave where the past is acknowledged and respected, but still moves in a forward direction.

    Just as circumstances have changed since 1984, they've changed since 1997 so it's possible that Eddie has found common footing with Dave where he feels that he's not cheating either his own creative soul or the fans.

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    hey, if dave is gonna be a team player and his voice can handle touring, then those comments eddie made no longer apply.
    it's not hypocritical, really.

    i think he was just being honest, and his honesty was based in the truth of the moment he made those comments.



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    I'm still a little pissed he caved in to WB.

    If he was serious about being interested in just making music, we'd have new material from them in some form by now, with Gary, somebody new, or no singer.

    Life is too short to lock yourself away for 2 years with someone you don't want to be with just to please a record label.

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    It's not so much caving in I think at the time, it was the fact Dave hadn't been on a rock stage in a few years and wasn't exactly sounding good at the time of the recording of the 2 songs. So Dave put out an album, went on tour, gave the fans what they wanted to hear, proved a lot of people wrong and it woke some people up at 5150.

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    My thoughts exactly Glenn and Van Edge. I'm tired of people bringing up things said in the past. Things change. Yes, a few quotes may still be valid, but most are out the window now (probably). I remember reading an interview with either Ace, Paul, or Gene from Kiss in like 1992. Whoever was interviewed was talking about actually wanting to fight him so he could really hurt the other. Obviously (though more for money) those circumstances changed.

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    If they are back with Roth what will Eddie say about all of the stuff he's said about him since the 96 fiasco?? He'll have alot of answering to do to everyone, but I don't think he would really care about what people say. There is a felling that I have that Roth will not be back and I may be wrong but just everything that has been said and done by both parties just makes me think that Ed will just keep doing whatever he wants and if that means a new singer then sa be it. I kind of agree with the quote though. I think in a way it would be great to see them back together again but then on the same line it would be a complete mockery of the band in whole, kind of spinal tappish. All we need now is to have them on tour with Dave and have Alex blow up like all the drummers do in the Spinal Tap movies.

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    I don't think Ed has any explaining to do for anyone. Dave's voice was fucking awful in '96, end of story. They didn't get along at the MTV Music Awards, hence no chance for a reunion. What's to explain?

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    I'm sure that if Dave is back, all of the above has been discussed and they know the risk of being perceived as Spinal Tap.

    If and when they do hit our awareness as a reformation, it will be a reinvented original, the magic of the music and voice will be recognizable, but the presentation will be, must be respectable of the time elapsed and now. I can't wait.

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    Well, I'm sure we could find an interview with Dave where he says something hypocritical but considering he hasn't had an interview with a reputable mag in years, it would be a lot of work. Why hasn't Dave had an interview with a reputable mag? Hmmmmmmm...Not to play the numbers game but...

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    Kiss did it - overcame differences to successfully return. So can VH.

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    Brett, first of all congrats on the upcoming wedding. I too just recently got married and it's a beautiful thing, ENJOY!! Secondly, I thought you were or would be a firm believer in beliving that Roth was back?? Maybe I'm wrong again? Again congrats!!

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    heatmiser, I think Brett was just saying they don't need to explain anything about why there was no reunion in '96 when they come out with one now, because their reasons from then are still valid - inasmuchas Dave's voice was shot in '96 (still may be, we'll have to wait and see how he sounds) and it seems from what Georgie has told us that the whole hip incident did indeed happen.

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