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    This happened just a couple of days ago here in Florida. I have X'd out the name of the company from this memo because it was an inner company memo from the company I consult for. I attend meetings throughout the year and sit on a committee that deals with the subject in this memo. If any of you see an article in your local newpaper regarding something like this could you please email me a link to your news paper's web site? I believe that my emaill address is in my profile. This is of course a very serious issue and the committee I sit on works with a national organization The Fertilizer Insitute that works with the government on fertilizer sercurity issue.

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    According to information I have received from the Florida Fertilizer and Agrichemical Association – late in the afternoon on 6/28/2005 three individuals of Middle Eastern decent driving a late model black Escalade attempted to purchase 300 lbs of high grade Ammonium Nitrate at a new feed store in Osceola County, Florida. The three individuals told the store owner they were up from Miami. They were well dressed as businessmen. They specifically requested “46%” Ammonium Nitrate. The store owner told them he did not have any high grade Ammonium Nitrate. He suggested they purchase 6-6-6 which he said would do the same thing for their grass and was not “explosive” they declined.

    Although XXXX does not handle Ammonium Nitrate we are requesting your diligence and would ask that you notify your customers that if individuals matching this bulletin make inquiries as to the availability of Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer, to please obtain a tag number on the vehicle and a good description of the individuals and immediately notify

    Ben Rider, Senior Investigator
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    Tampa, Florida 33602
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    Just kinda gives you warm 'n fuzzies all over...

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    There's a big problem with this and breaking into to nurse tanks on farms. Not just for bombs, but for making drugs also. The nurse tanks are more of a drug problem.
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    WTF???

    How in hell do these foreigners get to drive around in Escalades purchasin whatever they want to build their bombs???

    That's scary.

    I know it's not the answer for ya but I was just wonderin cause that didn't sound right at all. It does make one wonder tho.

    Whatta f'd up world we live in today.
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    Thats just fucking great!

    I hope that all fertilizer dealers have enough sense NOT to sell that shit to anybody who may seem suspicious, sorry if it bothers anyone. But those that appear of middle eastern decent should not be sold that shit. Actually that should apply to anybody, see Oklahoma City bombing.

    A license of some sort should be reuired for such large purchases, unless you have a fucking golf course in your yard, you don't need that much fertilizer. Go to Home Depot and by some SCOTTS Plus Turfbuilder.
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    Since I have been off for a little over a week and a half, I make a sojourn to my truck, just to check on it and that same message was on my QualComm unit.

    QualComm is a DOS based computer program/service a lot of trucking companies are using these days, especially since 9/11 , to track their trucks AND trailers. If I had a HazMat load or not, and someone tampered with the trailer, like pulling the 5th wheel pin lock, it sends a loud tone out in the truck...different than any other of the various beeps...to get our attention.

    These guys that pulled this stunt are either amatuers or are decoys for law enforcement agencies trying to bust sellers that sell amonium nitrate with nary a second glance. When an alert, like this one, is sent out, trucking companies that are a part of the DoHS Highway Watch immediately pullover and call in to let them know that they are okay. Then they start watching everything around them while they drive and when they stop for the night. We have a specific ID number we use if we end up having to call 911. That number is used for authenticating the call.

    Mark my words, then next attack WILL be with a semi or large straight struck capable of carrying up to 26,000 pounds. More likely the latter of the two. Less chances of getting caught at a scale house or other D.O.T. related cluster fuck. They're also a lot easier to get in to major metro's.

    So while traveling this weekend, if you come upon a truck with HazMat placarding on the trailer...DON'T GET CUTE AND FUCK AROUND WITH THEM by doing anything careless, like tailgating, hanging out in the hammer lane and not passing, cutting back in front of them after you pass and immediately putting your brakes on., etc. With this alert being sent out, any truck driver with HazMat is gonna be reeeeeeeeeeeealllllllllllyyyyyyy edgy until the alert is cancelled.
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    It's not against the law to buy ammonium nitrate, it's the amount of the chemical that rings the bell for the dealers. Trust me these dealers are schooled by the state and federal governments regarding these issues. In some states you have to have a license to not only sell but to buy ammonium nitrate. That's why most companies now are making fertilizers that don't contain any ammonium nitrate anymore. If you go into the hardware store to buy a bay you should be hard pressed to find any in a regular store.

    There are proper uses for ammonium nitrate on farms and the dealers know their regular customers who buy. Sooner or later people like these will finally figure out that until other countries they can not buy this produce here.

    There reason I have brought this to your attention is to help you keep your eye out for these occurances and to help me and the people I work with track them. We are also working the TFI (The Fertilizer Inst.) and the Gov. to help build better laws to build better ways to precent theft from these locations. It's harder than you might think. If we can track where they try to buy it. It will be easier to try to see a pattern to where they are. And where more thefts might occur.

    What is very frightening is when there is a large theft in a third world nation and it totally disappears. God only knows where they are hiding it and where they are going to use it. Just stop to think. If thousands of lbs of drugs can be smuggled into the US how hard would it be to smuggle in the same amount of ammonium nitrate? I'm not an overreactive person to these things, just someone who has worked with them for about 4 years now and know they are very real. After Oklahoma City all of us should know how easy it would be to do again.
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    I hope what happend in London was a sign of things to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddymon
    I hope what happend in London was a sign of things to come.

    Do you want to re-phrase that? Some people may get the wrong idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onefootoutthedoor
    Do you want to re-phrase that? Some people may get the wrong idea.
    LOL...yeah, that didn't sound too good, but I got what ya meant bro!!! Put "that" in fron of "what" and "was" to isn't"!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddymon
    I hope what happend in London was a sign of things to come.
    Oh shit sorry, I meant I hope it WASN'T a sign of things to come.
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    I know what you mean. It was a little over a year since the Spain bombings right? Wonder who will be next? They aren't going to stop.
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