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    Default I saw a brawl tonight

    I live in quiet (relatively) suburban Minnesota. Tonight I was out playing tennis in one of the parks with a friend. There was a group of perhaps 12-16 teenagers playing basketball and sitting on a picnic table near the court. They weren't particularly rowdy or loud, and I didn't think much of them.

    Another group of about 15 quickly swooped in, and they were armed. Mini baseball bats, what looked like broom handles, half a golf iron, part of a pool cue... you get the idea. They showed up to beat up this other group. There was no exchange of words, just a mad rush at the other group. Two of those kids got beaten badly. At least one of them ended up in a hospital.

    Talk about a powerless feeling. There I am with my buddy, the only two adults in the area. My first instinct was to stop things somehow, but I realized that probably wasn't the wisest of ideas. I grabbed my cell phone and called the police. I didn't even feel comfortable doing that. I'm not a small guy (5'11, about 220), but my friend is skin and bones. Maybe if there hadn't been any weapons I would have felt as though I could get involved, but even then... the sheer numbers of bodies involved and the speed at which it all took place really took me aback. What a horrible thing to witness.

    After spending the better part of an hour describing what when on to the officer that responded (he was the first on the scene, about 5 minutes after I called) and helping all of them look for weapons, I started wondering what, if anything, I could have done.

    I keep coming back to the same conclusion--nothing. That just seems so wrong. I even thought about a concealed carry permit, but drawing a handgun in that situation (many, many bodies involved--too many to watch) wouldn't seem wise, to say the least. The whole thing is just very disturbing.

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    You did the best you could under the circumstances. There's no telling what could have happened to you and your friend had you tried to get involved. It's always best to stay back from those, you never know who's packing heat these days.
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    You did the right thing from your stand point. It was either that, jump in, or do nothing really.

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    It's so sad to hear shit like that. Teenagers, weapons, gangs.

    The worst part of it, is that one day they're all going to mouth-off, try to attack with their Fisher Price homemade weapons or, gang up on the wrong person.

    That, or they'll run into a bunch of 81's and find out what a real gang is now or when they get older, get killed and never be found. It's shit like what you saw tonight is where it starts. You made the right move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL
    I grabbed my cell phone and called the police.

    I started wondering what, if anything, I could have done.
    As sad as it seems, that was all you could've done, mate. I probably would've froze in that situation.
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    Calling the police was the best thing to do, although firing few rounds in the air could have helped. But you never know - if those guys were under the effect of booze or something more strong I've heard such things only provoke them and make things even worse. I'd have probably done the same thing in your situation.

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    Seeing that is pretty disturbing. There aren't many other smart options you really had, all things considered. To think that just staying out of it was the best thing to do though, is just a pretty shitty feeling to have though. I probably would have done the same thing.
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    Be thankful the "armed" group did not witness your phone call to law enforcement . . . you and your friend could have been injured.
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    That's it! Time to move to Antarctica (I thinkI can find it on a map!) I don't want my 2 year old growing up having to worry about walking to school. Here in the metro Denver area it's not pretty.

    Mike, you did the right thing. A few years ago, I may have tried to intervene. Now with a kid, there's no way I would get in the middle of a 'pack-mentality' group of thugs.
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    I wish gangs in Los Angeles would go back to bats, chains and fists. Instead it's usually automatic gunfire which usually ends up killing a child that happened to be down the street from where it happened.

    Anyway, think all the other senarios that could have happened. Jump in and try to break it up? Hardly. Pull a fire arm and start shooting people. Welcome to the State Pen. You did the best thing anyone could have done. Just think if you would have left your cell phone else where.
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    That sounded like a really scary situation to be in. I think you did the right think because if you would've jumped in to stop the fight, there's no telling how much you and your friend could've gotten beat up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETRIGAN
    I wish gangs in Los Angeles would go back to bats, chains and fists.
    No Shit. "Warriors, come out to playyyy!" Ahhh, the good old 70's!

    That I can handle. Not AK's and the other armor they're carrying these days.
    A little more volume in the headphones please.

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    Yeah, you did the right thing. Not much in that situation that you could do. I've been in a similar situation, and I ran like hell!
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    Just pulling a firearm in that case would have gotten you loads of trouble you don't need. Unless you were physically threatened by any of the teens, not just being there, physically threatened, you'd have been looking at some serious problems.


    You did the right thing Mike, believe it or not.
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    You did all you could...jumping in the middle of that would have been a ticket to the hospital, or worse and the police wouldn't have been called...

    In fact, I'd stop wringing my hands, if I were you. Next time that happens, you better do the same thing. The police have the guns for a reason. The more you, or anyone, stresses on the "what more could I have done" aspect, the greater your temptation to jump in next time and wind up thrashed.

    You fulfilled your civic duties admirably, Mike...move on...
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