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    Balance in Chains

    I've been listening to Balance a lot lately and noticed that it was a pretty obvious departure from F.U.C.K. and the rest of their catalogue really. Each album seems to progress from the prior but the gap between these 2 seems a little starker (save consecutive albums with different singers of course). They obviously had a good chunk of time between them but still. I know that they played with Alice in Chains sometime during the OU812, F.U.C.K. or RHRN tours. I'm not sure of the details but I thought they shared the bill during the F.U.C.K. tour. I also heard that the bands became friends. I think maybe Ed and Jerry Cantrell were buds for a while.

    Does anyone think that Alice in Chains influenced the sound of Balance? Tracks like Seventh Seal, Don't Tell Me, Feelin', and Crossing Over all seem to be heavier, more serious, and more dramatic than prior VH. Some of it reminds me a little of AIC. Do you think that VH liked the sound of AIC and borrowed it a little or was at least influenced by it? Would we have Balance the way it is without AIC? I could be completely off base here but it seems that nearly all of VH's stuff since then has been moving in that direction. Humans Being, some of VH3, It's About Time, and Learning To See all sound a little darker, heavier, crunchier, and more serious. Some of the lyrics to these songs seem much more serious and Alice-esque. Maybe it was just the trend to move towards more serious sounds at that time but I was wondering who thought that AIC had a direct influence on VH's sound and if anyone had any thoughts on that.

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    I absolutely do not hear one bit of influence of AIC in any VH song on the Balance record. NONE!

    What I do hear is Van Halen with a different suit. Its still VH but a bit polished.

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    my favorite Van Hagar CD.pure eddie on guitar it was just something different and it kicked ass....and i think that CD set up VH3
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    I don't believe I hear anything remotely close to Alice in Chains on this one. I do recall that Edward mentioned something about these guys way back when. That's about it from me. BTW - Alice in Chains rocked....RIP Layne Staley.
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    Alice in Chains opened for VH for a good chunk of the Carnal Knowledge Tour in '91...they were a relative unknown to me then, but i grew to really dig their stuff. I could see some AIC reference in some of the heavy Balance tunes, maybe not direct, but a good point nevertheless.
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    Hey, you're not nuts. It's a theory, anyway.

    I think Balance was influenced in part by the overall vibe of what was going on in music with grunge and the whole scene.

    Balance wasn't grunge, but was a high-powered, dark-vibed (save for Can't Stop Lovin you and Not Enough) rocker...
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    That's an interesting observation.

    The band has said that many of the songs on "Balance" are a bit darker due to what was going on in their lives at that point. I don't really see an AIC influence in any of their songs or in the vibe of the album, but who knows.

    I do know, however, that Sammy has said "Don't Tell Me" was influenced by Kurt Cobain's death. Every musician has to draw inspiration from somewhere, whether it is another band, something going on in the world, or just some thought floating around in their head, so you could be right.

 

 

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