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    Romeo Delight
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    Ice Cream Tubs ??

    Firstly, I don't mean this to sound like i'm having a go or anything, cos i'm not, but i've always been frustrated that Al is such a phenomenal drummer, but on most of the albums his drums sound like fuckin' Ice Cream Tubs !! D'ya know what I mean ? I reckon the only times that they've actually SOUNDED great (he always plays great !) are on F.U.C.K. and the new songs on B.O.B.W. (which Ed engineered).

    On F.U.C.K., Andy Johns did a superb job of making the drums sound 'real' - obviously because he has worked with other legendary drummers such as Bonzo. On B.O.B.W. they sound so alive, it's great. But on most of the other albums, (actually, VH1 and 11 sound pretty cool too) even when he's not using the Simmons electric pads, I just think they sound really under-powered.

    What do you think ?

    Ed (guitarist by the way, so no drum expert !)
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    Good Enough extreme red roth's Avatar
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    I think Al's drums sound awesome on my remastered Fair Warning.

    I'm no expert, but I think I know what you mean.

    Boy, on III, the drums really sounded crappy. NO?
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    The constant in Al's drums has always been the snare sound. It is one of the most unqiue sounding snares in the world. I am drummer of 16 years semi-pro experince and like all drummers we tend to focus in on the sounds of the drums. Al's drums sounded poor on III, but just shake the room on F.U.C.K and Balance. It is always the engineering and the producing the decides the sound. Don Landee when he engineered the band in the early days always did a poor job on miking the drums so they sounded hollow like an ice cream tub. This was due to the type of drum he used. (open tom-tom sound great live, shit in the studio.) It was only when Al decided to drop the open ended power toms and use closed twin skin jobs did the sound become more natural. The live stuff is great in the last 10 years and the bootleg, "Bazooka" or 'Live at Luxor" demonstrates the good sound a closed tom can bring...as well one kick ass snare.

    Thanks for the thread. Al don't get much attention sometimes I feel.
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    Atomic Punk smithjc's Avatar
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    Donor

    Quote Originally Posted by extreme red roth
    I think Al's drums sound awesome on my remastered Fair Warning.

    I'm no expert, but I think I know what you mean.

    Boy, on III, the drums really sounded crappy. NO?
    Yeah Big Al's drumming on III sounded very hollow, for lack of a better word. It didn't sound like his other work for some reason. On every album up to III, his drumming was excellent. It sounded like he was hitting a piece of wood or something. Was he?
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    Sinner's Swing! the_atomic_punks_rule's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithjc
    Yeah Big Al's drumming on III sounded very hollow, for lack of a better word. It didn't sound like his other work for some reason. On every album up to III, his drumming was excellent. It sounded like he was hitting a piece of wood or something. Was he?
    There were more than drum problems on 3!

 

 

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