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    Default RRHOF Response to lack of VH.

    I emailed the president of the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame reguarding the question, "Why no VH?" and this is the response I got. Seemed pretty canned to me.

    Thanks for your comments.



    There is no doubt that rock and roll would not be what it is without the contribution of Van Halen. At the same time, you should realize that we receive literally thousands of such recommendations, many of which are as worthy as yours.



    The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. The only formal criteria is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate centerpieces for evaluation.



    The formal selection of inductees begins with an extensive panel of journalists, historians, previous inductees, industry heads, etc. In turn, those nominated are sent to a committee of more than 800 people around the world (journalists, historians, music industry management, all previous inductees, etc.) who vote. Those receiving the highest number of votes and more than 50% of the votes cast are inducted into the Hall. Usually, this means five to seven new members each year. So you can see the road to being inducted is an arduous one and for the most part, removed from the realm of influences or politics.



    On top of this, people sometimes forget that rock and roll and its artists are viewed in an incredibly subjective manner by any individual brought into the circle of discussion. As such, there is often widespread disagreement or fracturing of opinion about who is or was important. From my perspective, time will tell. I really think that all deserving candidates will have their moment eventually. Unfortunately, it often isnít the time frame they or their fans desire. Remember too, many of the sports greats do not get into their respective Halls of Fame right away either.



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    The only thing that guy typed in that response was : Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by DauhHalen
    That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical.
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    If that is truely the case , How can VH not be a first ballot inductee ?
    The bottom line is , Terry Stewart and his friends only induct who they want to , who will perform , and who they can make the most money off of !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw
    The only thing that guy typed in that response was : Van Halen
    Yep.
    Sammy did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
    Michael did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw
    The only thing that guy typed in that response was : Van Halen
    How true...We should get a scale and weigh in that pile of shit response.

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    That was an obvious form letter. What a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    That was an obvious form letter. What a surprise.
    Yup, and the only two original words are "Van Halen."

    We need some rabid VH fans on that HOF board.

    At least they replied...
    How open-minded do I have to be before my brains start spilling out?

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    This was their response to my letter!!!

    There is no doubt that rock and roll would not be what it is without the contribution of Ashlee Simpson. At the same time, you should realize that we receive literally thousands of such recommendations, many of which are as worthy as yours.



    The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. The only formal criteria is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate centerpieces for evaluation.



    The formal selection of inductees begins with an extensive panel of journalists, historians, previous inductees, industry heads, etc. In turn, those nominated are sent to a committee of more than 800 people around the world (journalists, historians, music industry management, all previous inductees, etc.) who vote. Those receiving the highest number of votes and more than 50% of the votes cast are inducted into the Hall. Usually, this means five to seven new members each year. So you can see the road to being inducted is an arduous one and for the most part, removed from the realm of influences or politics.



    On top of this, people sometimes forget that rock and roll and its artists are viewed in an incredibly subjective manner by any individual brought into the circle of discussion. As such, there is often widespread disagreement or fracturing of opinion about who is or was important. From my perspective, time will tell. I really think that all deserving candidates will have their moment eventually. Unfortunately, it often isnít the time frame they or their fans desire. Remember too, many of the sports greats do not get into their respective Halls of Fame right away either.



    Peace & Soul,



    Rock & Roll!





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    Sammy did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
    Michael did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
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    Q: who was the biggest douche that you have worked with?

    A: Eddie Van Halen hands down he threatened all the stage hands that if we wernt all pushed to the side when he got off stage that he would "bash our faces in"

    Now the new David-Lee-Roth-Van Halen album, ďTokyo Dome In Concert,Ē is available for purchase, and itís super, super, super, super, super, super, crazy bad. - Doug Elfman

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay
    This was their response to my letter!!!

    There is no doubt that rock and roll would not be what it is without the contribution of Ashlee Simpson. At the same time, you should realize that we receive literally thousands of such recommendations, many of which are as worthy as yours.



    The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. The only formal criteria is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate centerpieces for evaluation.



    The formal selection of inductees begins with an extensive panel of journalists, historians, previous inductees, industry heads, etc. In turn, those nominated are sent to a committee of more than 800 people around the world (journalists, historians, music industry management, all previous inductees, etc.) who vote. Those receiving the highest number of votes and more than 50% of the votes cast are inducted into the Hall. Usually, this means five to seven new members each year. So you can see the road to being inducted is an arduous one and for the most part, removed from the realm of influences or politics.



    On top of this, people sometimes forget that rock and roll and its artists are viewed in an incredibly subjective manner by any individual brought into the circle of discussion. As such, there is often widespread disagreement or fracturing of opinion about who is or was important. From my perspective, time will tell. I really think that all deserving candidates will have their moment eventually. Unfortunately, it often isnít the time frame they or their fans desire. Remember too, many of the sports greats do not get into their respective Halls of Fame right away either.



    Peace & Soul,



    Rock & Roll!





    Terry Stewart

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    LOL...That was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw
    The only thing that guy typed in that response was : Van Halen
    I'm sure he didn't even type that. It was a form email, and some guy in India probably typed in Van Halen and sent it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay
    This was their response to my letter!!!

    There is no doubt that rock and roll would not be what it is without the contribution of Ashlee Simpson.
    That is just vomitous. How about if we suggest Harrison Ford? Someone who has had NOTHING to do with music. We'd probably get the same response! "There is no doubt that rock and roll would not be what it is without the contribution of Harrison Ford." No, no doubt at all. WHAT A CROCK!

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    did someone say there is a forum there?
    am i lazy, blind or other?
    if so, can u post a link?
    i will single -handedly mount an assault of epic proportions on those fuckers..!!

    anyone ever hear of the DLR army?

    wait til they get a load of " Perticelli's Power Brigade for the Travesty of Oversight in Relation to Van Halen and the RRHOF"!!

    any volunteers?
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    "Thanks for your comments.

    There is no doubt that rock and roll would not be what it is without the contribution of ----- insert band name here----- . At the same time, you should realize that we receive literally thousands of such recommendations....."


    Van Halen meets all criteria in that piece of shit form letter yet they send it out like the ding-dongs they are...
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    Someone could say Van Halen sucks, but they can't say they aren't innovative and influential. Hells bells, every rock guitarist and front man for ten years copied or borrowed from Ed and Dave. What dumbasses.

    The fact that VH probably wouldn't perform is probably the main reason if I had to guess for them not being in.
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    My response letter looks exactly the same:

    There is no doubt that rock and roll would not be what it is without the contribution of Spinal Tap. At the same time, you should realize that we receive literally thousands of such recommendations, many of which are as worthy as yours.



    The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. The only formal criteria is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate centerpieces for evaluation.



    The formal selection of inductees begins with an extensive panel of journalists, historians, previous inductees, industry heads, etc. In turn, those nominated are sent to a committee of more than 800 people around the world (journalists, historians, music industry management, all previous inductees, etc.) who vote. Those receiving the highest number of votes and more than 50% of the votes cast are inducted into the Hall. Usually, this means five to seven new members each year. So you can see the road to being inducted is an arduous one and for the most part, removed from the realm of influences or politics.



    On top of this, people sometimes forget that rock and roll and its artists are viewed in an incredibly subjective manner by any individual brought into the circle of discussion. As such, there is often widespread disagreement or fracturing of opinion about who is or was important. From my perspective, time will tell. I really think that all deserving candidates will have their moment eventually. Unfortunately, it often isnít the time frame they or their fans desire. Remember too, many of the sports greats do not get into their respective Halls of Fame right away either.



    Peace & Soul,



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