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    HI everyone, Ive been to at least one show every tour that Vanhalen has played since 1979. Ed's playing was the best by far on the Balance tour.
    May be because he was sober at that time. what do you guys think?

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    for the fact that you have been to all those shows I thought you whould say the first tour. I have only seen him in the sammy era I would say that his playing is very clean and accurate on the balance tour but the setlist for that tour was just to mellow for me. when I watch that old oakland bootleg from the fair warning tour I would have to say that was his best , but I also think the songs were the best back then

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    5150 tour!all the solos on that tour including the songs solos were all improvised from night to night.thats unlike any other tour they've done.he was very fluid and rubbery and was just pooring out licks.since then and even before then his live work was for the most part near identical to the albums.the balance tour is a perfect example of that.i could listent to the albums instead!

    don't get me wrong i love all tours and would see any of them,its just 5150 was a deviation from the norm!

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    1984.Listening to some of those boots,he was smokin' hot at that time.
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    With the exception of this last tour he has always been bang on, what really stands out for me watching things like the U.S Festival or say LWAN, how his playing always seems so effortless, no matter how big or how important the gig, it was just like he was doing it in his sleep.

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    1984! Eddie's guitar work was sonic! He was definitely at the top of his game. Listen to Cathedral live, how fast and precise the playing was. The entire band was a machine on that tour and I think the boots prove it.
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    for me, it was the fair warning tour...ed was at the top of his game..he was still the guitar hero and just going off on stage ..his hip wasnt an issue and his solo did not take place standing still..he was running all over the place, doing floor twirls , etc..and he never fucked up for my ears!
    shit, i saw ed play with a cast on his picking hand...and in the middle of his solo, he fucked up...and stopped..right there on stage...and he walked up to a mic and cursed about his cast and then said..to wait a minute, he was going to do it again...and this time, he did it flwlessly and went further than i ever saw him solo..and the ovation he got...raised all the haiors on my neck!!

    that was it for me
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    His best playing started with Fair Warning and ended with 1984.

    This also was the period of time when Holdsworth was his favorite guitarist and was doing those wide stretches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls
    His best playing started with Fair Warning and ended with 1984.

    This also was the period of time when Holdsworth was his favorite guitarist and was doing those wide stretches.
    Ended in 84 eh? Do yourself a favor and get the bootleg of the Detroit show at the Joe in 86, it`s either the 2nd or 3rd night, when he does his solo, he sits down during the 316 part, and him and Al do a little blues jam, and his playing in that is unreal.

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    Eddie in 1986 was a damn fine guitarist. No doubt about it.

    However he was not pushing the envelope like he was in 84,83,82, etc. He even said it himself.

    I remember an interview from him prior to OU812 when he said he while he is not trying to play great leads, he also is not pushing the envelope like he did before. It was from Guitar for the Practicing Musician.

    Granted that was probably late 87 or early 88 but everybody during the 5150 tour said that Eddie was concentrating on rhythm guitar rather than leads.

    I remember George Lynch commenting directly toward that saying that he did not have the fire but he is writing damn good songs.

    Its all moot because everybody has their own opinion however when learning leads for VH songs, I have a bitch of a time doing Drop Dead Legs or Girl Gone Bad but have a far easier time post 1984.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls
    I remember an interview from him prior to OU812 when he said he while he is not trying to play great leads, he also is not pushing the envelope like he did before. It was from Guitar for the Practicing Musician.

    Granted that was probably late 87 or early 88 but everybody during the 5150 tour said that Eddie was concentrating on rhythm guitar rather than leads.

    I remember George Lynch commenting directly toward that saying that he did not have the fire but he is writing damn good songs.

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    we could reason and postulate that Ed HAD to concentrate on rythmn and melody and writing good songs, as opposed to being himself and not worrying so much--he had the sideshow with him back in the day..DLR..who could carry his own weight w/ lyrics and atteetude..as well as pushing ed to break barriers--to be the guitar hero...
    maybe when sam came along, ed felt he wanted to write more melodic songs, as opposed to guitar hero stuff..then, as his fame grew, so did the pressure..and increasingly, the burden of the fate of the band rested on ED...

    does this make any sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by perticelli
    we could reason and postulate that Ed HAD to concentrate on rythmn and melody and writing good songs, as opposed to being himself and not worrying so much--he had the sideshow with him back in the day..DLR..who could carry his own weight w/ lyrics and atteetude..as well as pushing ed to break barriers--to be the guitar hero...
    maybe when sam came along, ed felt he wanted to write more melodic songs, as opposed to guitar hero stuff..then, as his fame grew, so did the pressure..and increasingly, the burden of the fate of the band rested on ED...

    does this make any sense?
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    I love the Sammy stuff but if there was a person who never heard of Eddie and wanted to hear what all the fuss was about, which tracks would you play?

    Of course Eruption would be number 1 but then what would be the second?

    I for one would play the intro to Mean Streets or possibly Spanish Fly.

    As I would go down the list, it would be leaning much more to the DLR era rather than Sammy's.

    As far as songwriting is concerned, (and this wil get a big WTF!!!!!) VH3 had the most varied rhythms and textures.

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    Ive only seen VH since the Carnal Knowledge tour. I've seen and hear boots from every tour though and I think hes best playing was on the 5150 tour. just awesome playing. Very loose and fun.

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    During the Roth years (the early years), Eddie Van Halen was unconscious when he played the guitar, and I don't mean due to alcohol or drugs. It was in much the same way Michael Jordan was "unconscious" when he played basketball. He simply couldn't be touched. He could do no wrong and everything seemed very easy to him.
    So I'd have to agree that it's around 1984 that he was at his best.

 

 

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