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    Default Any Smashing Pumpkins fans?

    At work the other day a guy had on smashing pumpkins greatist hits. While hearing it I forgot that they had so many cool songs. I never really was into them but hearing some of their stuff again made me gain some respect for them. Corgan is a pretty good guitarist too. There was some older stuff of theirs on that disk and there were some pretty good solos. Anyone know why they broke up?

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    I think I remember Billy Corgan saying they had done all they can do and wanted to end the band on a high note. I think he just wanted to concentrate on his solo stuff and producing. But I heard they recently got back together and are in the studio recording a new album. Except for original bassist D'Arcy if I remember correctly.

    And yes, they do have a lot of good songs. I always admired their unique sound.
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    The Pumpkins rocked. They also grew up not that far from me.
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    My best friend's dad is knows Billy's grandma well. One time when he was visiting her, Billy came in and ask if he knew anyone that needed tickets for the umcoming show in So. Ill. He got us tix and back stage passes. I didn't know a lot about the Smashing Pumpkins except for a few songs I heard on the radio. They put on a pretty good show. Got to meet Billy and the band. That was cool. One thing I noticed, Billy played right handed but signed left handed. Also, the guitar player James X was a real nice dude and I was surprised at how little he was.
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    My best friend's dad is knows Billy's grandma well. One time when he was visiting her, Billy came in and ask if he knew anyone that needed tickets for the umcoming show in So. Ill. He got us tix and back stage passes. I didn't know a lot about the Smashing Pumpkins except for a few songs I heard on the radio. They put on a pretty good show. Got to meet Billy and the band. That was cool. One thing I noticed, Billy played right handed but signed left handed. Also, the guitar player James X was a real nice dude and I was surprised at how little he was.
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    Definitely. Siamese Dream is one of the better cd's of the 90's. Some awesome songs on there. Loved their sound and Corgan has one of the most unique voices ever.

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    Their first two albums great.Even their later stuff.Really daring music for a band that was the biggest thing around.
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    Pumpkins are cool. I have a few of their albums. Their music was really good and sound awesome at times. Friends of mine are bigger fans than i am of them. Got all their albums and saw them live i think. That would be cool if they do a new album in the near future.
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    my cousin is a pumpkins freak! He has all of the albums, shirts, videos etc...but when I do hear some pumpkins on the radio, I will give it a good listen just to give my listening some variety
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    Default Billy Corgan: "Why wait? I could die tomorrow."

    Billy Corgan starting anew with solo effort after demise of Pumpkins, Zwan
    By GREG KOT, Chicago Tribune

    CHICAGO --- Billy Corgan sits in the back yard of a suburban mansion befitting a rock star, squints into the noonday sun and talks about death.

    He is matter-of-factly responding to a question about his workaholic personality, a trait that is at the core of both his considerable successes and his equally epic failures. In the pantheon of Chicago rock artists, few have sold more records (more than 25 million), achieved more critical acclaim (albums such as "Siamese Dream" are routinely cited as benchmarks for '90s alternative rock) or become a bigger lightning rod for criticism ("What would my musical legacy be if I kept my mouth shut?" he muses at one point).

    So what's left to accomplish? Corgan answers as if he's running out of time.

    "I'm a religious person, and when God decides to push me off a cliff, I don't want to think as I'm going over that I didn't try hard." He offers this explanation at the outset of a conversation in which he will also discuss the painful demise of his previous bands, the Smashing Pumpkins and Zwan, and the need to start fresh on his first solo album, "The Future Embrace," due out June 21.

    More than an hour into the conversation, Corgan circles back to the same subject. He has already unburdened himself about many things: His attitude toward old bandmates, abusive family members and his reputation as a prima-donna musical dictator. He is doing more unburdening in a blog-like autobiography he is self-publishing on his Web site, billycorgan.com. Names are named, injustices revealed, scores settled. Corgan spares no one, including himself.

    "There is a point to making a public confession," he says. "Why wait? I could die tomorrow."

    It's disconcerting to hear the 38-year-old artist talk this way. He had a complex relationship with Kurt Cobain, who killed himself in 1994. And Corgan has acknowledged that he contemplated suicide at the height of Pumpkins mania. But Corgan isn't on some goth-rock death trip. He says his health is good, his spirits high, and he looks it.

    Corgan's deck-clearing has brought him into the third phase of a career that includes a 13-year tenure as the singer, guitarist and driving force in one of the best-selling bands of the alternative-rock era, the Smashing Pumpkins, with drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, guitarist James Iha and bassist D'Arcy Wretzky. After the Pumpkins fell apart, he and Chamberlin put together the ill-fated guitar-rock quintet Zwan, which imploded in 2003 after recording only one album. As a solo artist, he has dabbled in folk songs loosely arranged around a "Chicago" theme (debuted last year at a one-off concert), a book of poetry ("Blinking With Fists," published last year), and now "The Future Embrace."

    The album is a strangely beautiful electro-rock detour from the massed guitars of the Pumpkins and Zwan; it suggests what the Pumpkins' most-misunderstood album, "Adore" (1998), might've sounded like had Corgan pursued the possibilities suggested by two of its most alluringly personal songs, "To Sheila" and "Shame."

    Corgan nods in recognition. "Those were the broken, drive-by moments on 'Adore,' and they couldn't be sustained," he says. "We were in the right mood at the right time on the right day, and those songs appeared. On any other day, those songs wouldn't have happened, because making that album was a nightmare. This is the record 'Adore' might've been if I had known what I was doing."

    The drama drives Corgan as much as it bedevils him. As the interview continues, he acknowledges that sometimes he has been his own worst enemy.

    Q. You pulled the plug on Zwan just before you were supposed to tour Europe in 2003, only a few months after your only album came out. Why?

    A. It was devastating because I had invested two years of energy setting it up. I didn't want to start over again. But it was a disaster waiting to happen, worse than the Pumpkins. If you come out of something very painful, your natural reaction is I'm not going to do that again. And you wake up, and realize, not only am I doing that again, but it's worse. It's not even as good a band as the Pumpkins were. The record company turned it into a simple explanation: The record didn't sell, so Corgan got pissed off and went home. But the problems got started while the record was being made, and success would've only covered it up. Jimmy (Chamberlin) and I talk often, and we both thank God that it was not successful. Because if it had been, we would have been locked into it longer, and the atom-bomb potential would have been bigger.

    Q. How was making `The Future Embrace' different?

    A. Everybody in the studio (primarily co-producers Harris and Bjorn Thorsrud, as well as Brian Liesegang, Matt Walker and Chamberlin) worked as hard as me. There is no conflict. Even if they didn't always produce the results that I envisioned, I knew they were trying. As long as you try, I have tons of patience.

    Q. Did you consciously move away from making a guitar-based rock record?

    A. I had a mantra: "I just want it to be exciting." I already know how to make alternative guitar rock. So how do I make something new that's exciting? I looked at different periods of music, examined the transitional points where new things come in. The first reaction is, "What the hell is this?" The next reaction is, "Oh, that's kind of interesting." And the third reaction is, everybody wants to do it. Whether I've done that, I don't know. But I wanted to do something where people didn't instantly say, "Oh, that's great!" Because you're probably backdated already. The audience is not necessarily sophisticated enough to always be on the tipping point. And that's not their fault. That's why they pay you the big bucks. You're supposed to be on the tipping point. But new rock 'n' roll tells you to stay in the warm part of the circle, don't go too far out, make sure the choruses are loud, and the verses are mournful and down, i.e., what you used to do.

    Q. What if nobody cares?

    A. A record succeeds on two different levels. It can be liked, loved, pored over, and in some cases it sells. I want it to sell, but I would much rather have people appreciate it. After "Siamese Dream" (1993), "Adore" is the most talked about record the Pumpkins ever made, and that was a disaster when it came out. It about killed my band, and it about killed me. This time I believe I made a really strong record. The fact that somebody might not get it today, I can deal with that. I believe this record has enough juice that people will find it eventually.

    Q. You're asking a lot of a short-attention span culture.

    A. Well, it's the shortest record I've made since the first one. I don't feel 46 minutes of music is too much to ask of anybody.

    Q. Why are you addressing your past now on your Web site?

    A. I still live there. I'm not in the Smashing Pumpkins right now, but for me it's an everyday thing, I'm still wrestling with that. Every day I think about, "Where's D'Arcy? Is she OK?" and (exasperated voice) "Frigging James (Iha)." Jimmy (Chamberlin) and I still talk twice a week. The bonds are still there. There is also a lot of (domestic) abuse in my past. Hostile, reactive, self-abusive behavior. People from the outside would look at me, and say, "What's his problem? Why's he such a jerk?" I feel if I tell the whole story, most people will understand why I did what I did. A child protects his parents from what they're doing to the child because he thinks he can fix the parents. It applies to families, bands, relationships. It's taken me 30 years to realize that doesn't work. Telling the truth will open me to criticism that I haven't been open to before. But it will release the black ball that has been sitting in my stomach.

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    Give it up, Billy.
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    Yep. Unsmash the Pumpkins.
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    yeah i dont think that is gonna happen...him and Iha are really close to put it mildly

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    just found this...its billy writing his autobiography blog style online. kind of interesting.

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    Taking out full page ads in Tuesday's Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times,
    Billy Corgan announced plans to reform his seminal alt-rock out five years after disbanded the group.

    "For a year now, I have walked around with a secret, a secret I chose to keep," the bald-pated singer-songwriter writes in an open letter to fans. "But now I want you to be among the first to know that I have made plans to renew and revive the Smashing Pumpkins. I want my band back, and my songs, and my dreams."



    IMHO...

    Who gives a shit! I don't know how everyone else feels but I absolutely hate those Shiting Pumpasses. Everytime I hear that Uncle Festerís voice I piss my pants and harm raw broccoli.

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