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    Default Van Halen comes in at #11 on Rolling Stone's Top 50 Money Makers

    http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6959138

    Money Makers
    From Prince to Beyonce, our annual list of music's top fifty earners
    By ROBERT LAFRANCO

    1. Prince
    $56.5 MILLION

    2. Madonna
    $54.9 MILLION

    3. Metallica
    $43.1 MILLION

    4. Elton John
    $42.9 MILLION

    5. Jimmy Buffett
    $36.5 MILLION

    6. Rod Stewart
    $34.6 MILLION

    7. Shania Twain
    $33.2 MILLION

    8. Phil Collins
    $33.2 MILLION

    9. Linkin Park
    $33.1 MILLION

    10. Simon and Garfunkel
    $31.3 MILLION

    11. Van Halen
    $30.2 MILLION

    ON THE ROAD High hopes for the first Van Hagar tour in eight years led to guarantees of up to $1 million a night, but ticket sales fell short. So, even as it counts a $38 million 2004 gross, the band will have to settle for less upfront next time.

    ON CD Catalog sales amounted to slightly fewer than 500,000 units in 2004; publishing royalties brought in nearly $2 million.

    ON THE SIDE The band added to tour revenue by selling T-shirts and hats at the impressive rate of ten dollars per person.

    Last year's rank: NA

    [...snip...]

    HOW WE DID IT
    Success Secret: The "Moneymakers" list was compiled from extensive interviews with record-company executives, managers, lawyers, agents and publicists, and uses figures derived from Nielsen SoundScan, Pollstar, the Recording Industry Association of America, Amusement Business/Billboard, The Yellow Pages of Rock and ArtistDirect. Net figures reflect what performers take home after recording expenses have been deducted and managers, agents and lawyers have taken their cuts. All figures should be considered estimates. Robert LaFranco, a former editor at Forbes, wrote the 2004 "Rich List" in RS 944.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron
    ON THE SIDE The band added to tour revenue by selling T-shirts and hats at the impressive rate of ten dollars per person.
    Wow, $10 bucks per person per night is an awesome take on merchandise!

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    Imagine if they would've actually let people know that they were touring.
    Sammy did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
    Michael did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
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    A: Eddie Van Halen hands down he threatened all the stage hands that if we wernt all pushed to the side when he got off stage that he would "bash our faces in"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheresOnlyOneWay
    Imagine if they would've actually let people know that they were touring.
    I can only speak for the market I'm located in, but here they had:

    Coverage on four FM and one AM radio stations that I know about
    Newspaper story
    Newspaper ad
    Television ad

    The radio coverage was especially good IMO.

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    Does that mean $30.2 million divided 4 ways, or do the brothers have a disproportionate share compared to Mike and Sam?

    Divided 4 ways that would be $7.55 million each, before taxes. After taxes, it would almost be enough for a 3 bedroom house in Orange county. Not a lot of dough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatie
    Does that mean $30.2 million divided 4 ways, or do the brothers have a disproportionate share compared to Mike and Sam?

    Divided 4 ways that would be $7.55 million each, before taxes. After taxes, it would almost be enough for a 3 bedroom house in Orange county. Not a lot of dough.
    Did those techs get paid out of the gross or did each musician 1099 his guy? Strings? Sticks? I'm not sure of all the endorsments each artist has or what their deal is. Touring is a break-even-to-win game. Someone posted earlier about the $10/person merchandise revenue. That is NOT a winning figure.
    Not having a new record to push was also NOT a smart move. Tons of lost revenue there. Maybe this actually was a tour for the fans...NOT the nostalgic money grab Ed(ward) promised he'd never do.
    I've posted elsewhere here about Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet World Tour. They played for 4 million people and each fan averaged $20 for merchandise. Facts. That was quite a long time ago.
    As for Sam, I would think his handshake deal was a fixed $$$ amount. I also speculate that it was considerably more than $7.55 million. Possibly even double. Pure speculation on my behalf (80 shows x $750,000 guarantee). It definitely DOES NOT suck being a rock star. Even if ya can't afford a new house in Orange County.

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    I knew it !!!! 11th ?...........Utter failure !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberfiddl
    Someone posted earlier about the $10/person merchandise revenue. That is NOT a winning figure.
    I missed that thread. Can you post a link?

    As for the $10 bucks a head per night, maybe that just seems like a lot to me since I went to 9 separate shows and spent a grand total of $5 bucks on merchandise (total) at those shows. (a package of stickers for those interested). Thus my per night total was about 55 cents.

    Attendance over the course of 80 shows was 710,504. So that's an extra $7mil in merchadise sales. I dunno, still sounds pretty nice to me.

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    People they beat out: Usher (wow! I'd think he'd be in the top 5 'cause of Confessions), Clapton (Who would've known Ed'd beat out his role model one day?), Celine Dion (way to go, guys!), Dave Matthew's Band, Hilary Duff, Bette Midler, Beyonce (another surprise), and Britney Spears!
    So you broke down, trying to leave town, I broke down crying on your return. You left me feeling hopeful, I'll never see your face again. You made for a bad lover's liver. You stole all the covers and busted my head. You made me such an asshole, I wish we'd never met. I'm tired of being bored. I'm through with the headaches. Hiding my hands that tremble like earthquakes. Under the table, under the daytime sky, Good Fucking Bye- Good Fucking Bye, Alkaline Trio

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    Just imagine if...

    the boys had a NEW ALBUM!!! And the radio & TV press for it!!! Do you think that they would have brought $50 Million? Easily, I think so!!! Maybe more! They would have been #1!!! Next time...just cut out one of those 1's on 11, and that's what they'll be!

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    What a bunch of excuse makers! People act is if VH were playing unannounced club dates. In my market (So. Fl), there were constant radio ads, 2 stations broadcasted live from the show, ads in Showtime(the weekend entertainment section of the newspaper), as well as a full page cover story before the concert. I saw an interview with Sam and Al on CNN and the news of the reunion made every national media outlet. There may not have been a VH1 tie in like with Motley Crue but it got plenty of press.

    What I don't understand is why people feel the need to make excuses. Because the tour wasn't number 1, because they didn't sell out every show, because they didn't play stadiums? It was what it was, a modestly successful tour by a group out of the spotlight for a long time, that hadn't had a hit album in 10 years. The show played extremely well in some markets and bombed in others (North Dakota?). Get over it.

    BTW in calculating VH's 2004 earnings where are the sales for BOBW? I see 500,000 for the back catalog but BOBW sold that many copies itself??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron
    I went to 9 separate shows and spent a grand total of $5 bucks on merchandise
    Ron, you're the sort of guy I could hang with. I buy very little at shows....I am just not a fan of Van Halen leather wristbands.

    As far as Bon Jovi selling $20 a head of merchandise, seems logical to me. Seems like before the net, merchandise like that was only available at the shows....not it's at our fingertips. Plus you can't deny the popularity of Bon Jovi.....they're freakin' huge.
    Actually I think most of us are Dave, Sam, and Mike fans. There's just a small group of people who have strange allegiances and like to get into petty pissing contests that I can't believe everyone on this site isn't bored of. - Brett

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    This is the NET take for VH in 2004. They were 6 or 7 in terms of gross ticket sales, but this list takes into account other revenue (shirts, cds, etc...) and deducts for lawyers, managers, etc...

    So, the $30M is split among the band, based on whatever the % is per the contract they agreed to so everyone should be happy.

    Could have been better, of course, but maybe this will work out for us next time. So they didn't pack every house, they will get less guarantee next time which will lower prices a bit. If there is a next time of course.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menlow
    What a bunch of excuse makers! The show played extremely well in some markets and bombed in others (North Dakota?). Get over it.
    Seems to me there needs to be a no spin zone on this... In simple terms what you got is a nostalgia act in support of 3 sub-par songs that didn't even make the play list every night. Fucking Spammy and Alice need to wake the fuck up and get off the juice in promoting the next outing. The fans aren't going to buy the bullshit of embracing the CVH era and Sam's feable attempt at selling his new found love of attempted singing the same crap abortion of Dave's tunes.

    Rather than make excuses most knotheads should be celebrating the fact that the band actually showed up for 80 dates... and stayed off life support throughout it... although that's a stretch when you look at some of the "alleged" shows (Ontario, San Jose, the last Tucson).

    The facts are unless VH does something drastic and releases something with actual teeth to support thier next outing and not another fucking repackage of old shit... then their future itinerary will be county fairs and 3rd tier casinos. Which actually may facilitate the reunion majority of fans long for... as long as it's not the DLR Band & Van Hagar Heavyweightless Losers of the World tour... Oh gag me with a wolfgang...
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    Zahzoo, you speak the truth, brother! While it would seem all the boys added some nice coin to their already substantial wealth, they didn't get a penny from me. Better music on the "Best of" would have certainly helped. Reading about the same set list over and over didn't help. I am happy for those who chose to go and had fun, however. Zahzoo, I understand your frustration.....

 

 

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