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    Default Are all VH fans considered equal here??

    In the light of some shitty comments on the ripped off logo thread in main today, I really would appreciate clarification on this issue, especially in the light of the vastly different selection of races/ religions and the probability of at least a few VH members here being gay.

    Everyone has different views on different issues outside of VH, and of course are allowed their own personal feelings on those matters, but it's another issue when those who are amongst us as VH fans are classed in the same catagory as paedophiles and seemingly subhuman because of their sexuality.

    I'd like to think that all the members here could expect the same level of courtesy and respect.

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    I agree with you 100%. I was appalled when I read that thread a few moments ago! I can’t believe they way some people on here think. It was uncalled for…no matter what your beliefs are. The comments people make sometime cause me to feel embarrassed to be a white, heterosexual male. Evolve already, will ya?

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    Sexual behavior is not a status equating race, creed, color, or national origin, and should not lead to special rights of protection regarding discrimination. If you are going to include certain types of sexual behavior, you must include all types of sexual behavior equally protected. Think about that one. If this has become the gay links, its demise is inevitable.

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    WRONG, you dangerously ignorant little man!! Whatever 2 consenting adults legally do in private has NO bearing whatsoever to do with illegally taking a childs innocence by force and damaging the rest of it's life. People like you make me want to vomit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatie
    Sexual behavior is not a status equating race, creed, color, or national origin, and should not lead to special rights of protection regarding discrimination. If you are going to include certain types of sexual behavior, you must include all types of sexual behavior equally protected. Think about that one. If this has become the gay links, its demise is inevitable.

    Do you honestly think Homosexuality is just a sexual preference? You don’t know much about what it is you choose to hate. The sexual preference is just a part of it….just as you having heterosexual sex is just a part of you being heterosexual.

    They are not asking for “special” rights….they are asking for the same rights. So, it isn’t about sexual behavior. It is about people hating people who are different than themselves.

    Gay links? Man, you really need a lesson in life. This isn’t gay links, white links, black links, hetero links, religious links, or any kind of links other than Van Halen fan links. If this site is populated with people like you, then you are correct, its demise is inevitable.

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    Hey Angel, I have a question for you that I wanted to ask you on a closed thread. Wondering why you went out in left field on the topic regarding skin color or national origion. What does sexual behavior have to do with race? (since you brought it up) Oh, and FWIW, I think people should be able to screw hamsters if they want, just don't ask me to condone it, teach it to my children, protect it, or otherwise celebrate it. I do not hate, and I think lesbians are great

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    Discrimination is a good thing, at times. If I had my way, we'd close the doors to quite a few people. Phatie would be one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatie
    Hey Angel, I have a question for you that I wanted to ask you on a closed thread. Wondering why you went out in left field on the topic regarding skin color or national origion. What does sexual behavior have to do with race? (since you brought it up) Oh, and FWIW, I think people should be able to screw hamsters if they want, just don't ask me to condone it, teach it to my children, protect it, or otherwise celebrate it. I do not hate, and I think lesbians are great
    No one is asking you to celebrate it. You either don’t understand or you refuse to try. You are getting too caught up in the sex part here. It is not the “sex” you are being asked to “protect”, “teach”, “condone” or “celebrate”, it is the person. The person is being unfairly discriminated against. Period.

    If you can’t see the real point then it is a lost cause.

    Think about that.

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    We discriminate about all sorts of things every day. Discrimination is a matter of taste, and I don't have a discriminative-phobia. I'm not ashamed of my feelings, nor would I deny anyone else the right to their feelings. I would not hire a gay person, but that is my right as an employer. If they did not wear it on their sleeve, how would I know? Hypersensitivity is another slipery slope, and I'm not going to celebrate someone's behavior, or have it morally legislated to me.

    Van Halen's music has never been about gay rights. It is about parties and boobs, teachers, hookers, porn stars, girlfriends, strippers and wives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatie
    Hey Angel, I have a question for you that I wanted to ask you on a closed thread. Wondering why you went out in left field on the topic regarding skin color or national origion. What does sexual behavior have to do with race? (since you brought it up) Oh, and FWIW, I think people should be able to screw hamsters if they want, just don't ask me to condone it, teach it to my children, protect it, or otherwise celebrate it. I do not hate, and I think lesbians are great
    What a shocker!! Really, that does surprise me. "lesbians are great"

    I'm not asking anyone to like, condone or protect anyone, just afford the same courtesy to all who post here as VH fans. We all have different views on certain issues, we disagree, we argue and we often agree to disagree. What you posted was deeply offensive and quite repulsive.
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    Phatie, I am not saying you have to accept anything. I am trying to get across to you the concept of tolerance and the idea that what we as individuals like and don't like has to take a backseat when it comes to dening someone's rights.

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    Angie, there's no point in trying to show him the light. He's clueless. He hasn't yet realized that nobody on this board likes him, that most of his posts are ridiculed, and that everything he says is largely considered a waste of bandwidth. He's just a lonely bitter turd, merely a classic example of a man who lives in fear of that which he does not understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen
    Angie, there's no point in trying to show him the light. He's clueless. He hasn't yet realized that nobody on this board likes him, that most of his posts are ridiculed, and that everything he says is largely considered a waste of bandwidth. He's just a lonely bitter turd, merely a classic example of a man who lives in fear of that which he does not understand.

    He thinks I am you.

 

 

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