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    Michael Powell Resigns!

    The head of the FCC for the last four years has finally resigned! After reacting to Janet Jackson in the Superbowl this guy blew up and fined everybody on TV for everything that they had done in the past twenty years. Affiliate station of ABC were afraid to show Saving Private Ryan on veterans day for fear of being fined 750K. In Cleveland, my affiliate choose not to show it because they feared of getting fined. I didn't listen to Howard Stern this morning but I bet he is estatic. One good thing that he did was let broadband be available to the people and he stopped the phone companies from making a monopoly. The guy did the right thing to Janet Jackson and MTV but the whole tirade that came after that was ridiculous.

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    hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i can hear howard stern dancing right now!!

    awesome. maybe now we can get back to reality and let things loosen up a bit. when you have to fuzz up a cartoons butt for fear of punishment, we have problems......

    couldnt have happened any sooner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenpaw
    Did daddy find him a new job?

    His new job will be taking out Howard Stern's trash and getting him coffee every morning!
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    I'm sure they'll just replace him with another weenie who's scared of nipples and poopie-jokes.
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    Doesn't the president offer his nomination for the post of FCC chair? If so, do you think he'll suggest someone to the left of junior Powell? Stern ain't dancing. I guarantee it.

    Second, I'm not opposed to the FCC. The recent hefty fines seem to be the commission's way of sending a message that they aren't fooling around anymore.

    Whether the fines are too heavy is up for argument. Yet with two little kids at home, I KNOW how much crap is out there. (If you don't have kids, imagine you're watching TV with an elderly nun and count how many times you'd hit that channel changing button.) Finding anything to watch is tough work. At this point, reruns of America's Funniest Videos is about all I let them see.

    I do have the power to change channels, true, and I take seriously my responsibility for what my kids see. But I have to ask, does this have to be such difficult work? Can some things on public airwaves be off limits during "family hours?"

    If you want adult situations, harsh language, semi nudity, nipple-baring singers, etc., I'm fine with that. But keep it on subscription stations so I don't have to run into it when the eyes of a 6 year-old and a 3 year-old are on the screen. I don't pay for those cable channels specifically for these reasons, but network stuff is just as raunchy these days (Desperate Housewives, anyon?) and maybe someone like the FCC should keep a watch over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by te5150
    Doesn't the president offer his nomination for the post of FCC chair? If so, do you think he'll suggest someone to the left of junior Powell? Stern ain't dancing. I guarantee it.

    Second, I'm not opposed to the FCC. The recent hefty fines seem to be the commission's way of sending a message that they aren't fooling around anymore.

    Whether the fines are too heavy is up for argument. Yet with two little kids at home, I KNOW how much crap is out there. (If you don't have kids, imagine you're watching TV with an elderly nun and count how many times you'd hit that channel changing button.) Finding anything to watch is tough work. At this point, reruns of America's Funniest Videos is about all I let them see.

    I do have the power to change channels, true, and I take seriously my responsibility for what my kids see. But I have to ask, does this have to be such difficult work? Can some things on public airwaves be off limits during "family hours?"

    If you want adult situations, harsh language, semi nudity, nipple-baring singers, etc., I'm fine with that. But keep it on subscription stations so I don't have to run into it when the eyes of a 6 year-old and a 3 year-old are on the screen. I don't pay for those cable channels specifically for these reasons, but network stuff is just as raunchy these days (Desperate Housewives, anyon?) and maybe someone like the FCC should keep a watch over it.
    oh come on.... did you even see the nipple when it happened? most people no. it was over quickly. when people got upset is when the press had pictures of it all over the place.
    no pictures, no complaints.

    what really happens to your children when they see something? do they run off and kill some one? do they strip off their clothes? why is it that it is ok for all day time dramas are ok????? tons of sex there. all the talk shows?
    what about all the violence? i would rather see a nipple than people getting shot or stabbed or what have ya.

    i was able to watch just about anything growing up and i turned out just fine. i know right from wrong.
    yes i have child, will i shield her from all the stuff, doubt it.

    i am just tired of people telling me what i can and cannot watch, listen to or buy. this is america isn't it?
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    named, that wasn't his point. No one is saying you can or can't watch whatever...The point is adult oriented programming is on at EVERY hour of the day. Yes, soap operas have always been around, but there needs to be respect for the consumers that drive the advertising base who don't want nudity and excessive profanity on television. Without the viewers who buy the products there is no television and that group can't be ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by te5150
    I do have the power to change channels, true, and I take seriously my responsibility for what my kids see. But I have to ask, does this have to be such difficult work? Can some things on public airwaves be off limits during "family hours?".
    Te5150,

    I understand your position, but consider these points (and please, please don't take this as an attack):

    - You are under no obligation to have a TV in your home, nor are you obligated to allow your kids to watch general broadcasts. I know a few parents who simply let their kids watch videos and DVD's that THEY choose and nothing but. That way they KNOW what their kids are seeing without any rude surprises.

    - Parenting is probably the hardest job a human could have. In doing such a job, you have to make certain sacrifices - again, your TV. Why should the rest of us have to bear the burden and have TV as we enjoy it be cleaned up "for our own good"? It got so bad that some stations refused to air "SAving Private Ryan" on Veteran's Day. That's just too much. I may be left-leaning in my thinking, but I don't buy Hillary's "it takes a village" idea of raising kids. Your kid, your responsibility.

    Again, I'm simply posing questions. This isn't meant to be a confrontation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namedmydaughterHALEN
    oh come on.... did you even see the nipple when it happened? most people no. it was over quickly. when people got upset is when the press had pictures of it all over the place.
    no pictures, no complaints.

    what really happens to your children when they see something? do they run off and kill some one? do they strip off their clothes? why is it that it is ok for all day time dramas are ok????? tons of sex there. all the talk shows?
    what about all the violence? i would rather see a nipple than people getting shot or stabbed or what have ya.

    i was able to watch just about anything growing up and i turned out just fine. i know right from wrong.
    yes i have child, will i shield her from all the stuff, doubt it.

    i am just tired of people telling me what i can and cannot watch, listen to or buy. this is america isn't it?
    No, I didn't see JJ's nipple. That's not the point. The point is the "entertainment" during halftime of a FOOTBALL game showed a bunch of people bumpin' and grindin' and at the end of it all, a guy grabbing a girl's breast and ripping her top down. Sorry for being prudish, but I don't think my 6 year old should see that stuff yet.

    As for what my kids see and the effect it might have on them, I don't allow them to watch soap operas or talk shows for the very reasons you mentioned. If a show comes on that I know will include violence (stabbings or shootings), I won't let them watch that, either. I let my 6 year old play video games, but not ones with massive blood and gore.

    I believe in garbage in - garbage out.

    My kids are young and my first responsibility as a parent is to make sure they're safe. I'm no idiot. I know I can't control everything they see, but when it is up to me, you're damn right I'm going to filter the trash.

    (And when they do see something that should be for adults, I talk it over with them, making sure they understand the difference between reality and TV or video games, or what is OK for grown ups is not always OK for kids.)

    If you doubt you'll shield your child from this stuff, I'm honestly sorry to hear it.

    I'll tell you flat out, though; I don't believe you. Here's why: Will you sit her in front of porno? Probably not. How about Jerry Springer? I sure hope not. Reruns of Friends? Hmm. Doubtful. Home Improvement? Eh, that show's not too bad. American Idol? Not too much harm in that show.

    My point is, you as a parent already have your guidelines. If programming is linear like my example above (porn>Jerry Springer>Friends>Home Improvement>American Idol>etc.), you already have a stopping point somewhere (I hope).

    I assume most parents do, and if that's the case, I'm not against the FCC trying to establish a line in the sand when it comes to public airwaves. To me, it's not the government telling me what I can or cannot see (do you actually believe there's a SHORTAGE of porn out there?), it's more about assisting families in an effort to protect kids from seeing things they probably shouldn't - especially during times when it's most likely kids are watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum
    Te5150,

    I understand your position, but consider these points (and please, please don't take this as an attack):

    - You are under no obligation to have a TV in your home, nor are you obligated to allow your kids to watch general broadcasts. I know a few parents who simply let their kids watch videos and DVD's that THEY choose and nothing but. That way they KNOW what their kids are seeing without any rude surprises.

    - Parenting is probably the hardest job a human could have. In doing such a job, you have to make certain sacrifices - again, your TV. Why should the rest of us have to bear the burden and have TV as we enjoy it be cleaned up "for our own good"? It got so bad that some stations refused to air "SAving Private Ryan" on Veteran's Day. That's just too much. I may be left-leaning in my thinking, but I don't buy Hillary's "it takes a village" idea of raising kids. Your kid, your responsibility.

    Again, I'm simply posing questions. This isn't meant to be a confrontation.
    You're absolutely right. And to be honest, the TV is off most of the time in our house (until the kids go to bed).

    As for the 'rest of us' having to bear some burden, I don't buy it. Social mores are necessary. The majority, I think, can agree that beastiality porn shouldn't be shown on CBS at 7:30 p.m. Now, if you're into girls blowing horses, you can seek it out and find it.

    Put another way, if it falls outside of the generally accepted rules of society, the burden to find it should be on the people who want it. If the FCC's job is to somehow loosely follow the guidelines of what's acceptable to the majority, I can't complain. Further, if the FCC reins in those guidelines a little, I won't complain either.

    In some cases it's been reined in too much. The Saving Private Ryan fiasco is a good example. I would have been fine with that because ABC was planning "viewer discretion" warnings at commercial breaks and before the movie.

    If CBS had warned before JJ and JT's halftime show that he'd be ripping her bra cup off, I wouldn't have my kids in the room (I'd stay to watch, of course!)

    I guess what I'm saying is that the childless people who seem unoffended by anything have NO shortage of materials to view and hear. Good. I enjoy those things, too, when I can. But ought we not to expect certain times and places to be safe for young eyes? That's just being responsible (not anti-American).
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    Good points, te5150.


    If people don't think they are influenced by what they see and hear, someone needs to tell the advertisers who are paying $2 million or more to have their commercials on during the Super Bowl. Evidently they are convinced they can influence the viewers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by te5150
    No, I didn't see JJ's nipple. That's not the point. The point is the "entertainment" during halftime of a FOOTBALL game showed a bunch of people bumpin' and grindin' and at the end of it all, a guy grabbing a girl's breast and ripping her top down. Sorry for being prudish, but I don't think my 6 year old should see that stuff yet.

    As for what my kids see and the effect it might have on them, I don't allow them to watch soap operas or talk shows for the very reasons you mentioned. If a show comes on that I know will include violence (stabbings or shootings), I won't let them watch that, either. I let my 6 year old play video games, but not ones with massive blood and gore.

    I believe in garbage in - garbage out.

    My kids are young and my first responsibility as a parent is to make sure they're safe. I'm no idiot. I know I can't control everything they see, but when it is up to me, you're damn right I'm going to filter the trash.

    (And when they do see something that should be for adults, I talk it over with them, making sure they understand the difference between reality and TV or video games, or what is OK for grown ups is not always OK for kids.)

    If you doubt you'll shield your child from this stuff, I'm honestly sorry to hear it.

    I'll tell you flat out, though; I don't believe you. Here's why: Will you sit her in front of porno? Probably not. How about Jerry Springer? I sure hope not. Reruns of Friends? Hmm. Doubtful. Home Improvement? Eh, that show's not too bad. American Idol? Not too much harm in that show.

    My point is, you as a parent already have your guidelines. If programming is linear like my example above (porn>Jerry Springer>Friends>Home Improvement>American Idol>etc.), you already have a stopping point somewhere (I hope).

    I assume most parents do, and if that's the case, I'm not against the FCC trying to establish a line in the sand when it comes to public airwaves. To me, it's not the government telling me what I can or cannot see (do you actually believe there's a SHORTAGE of porn out there?), it's more about assisting families in an effort to protect kids from seeing things they probably shouldn't - especially during times when it's most likely kids are watching.

    oh come on..... who sits their kids in front of porn. thats a whole other situation. i am just saying if she wants to watch something, i would probably let her watch it. i will teach her whats right and wrong and not to mimic what she sees on tv.
    to quote you:
    "(And when they do see something that should be for adults, I talk it over with them, making sure they understand the difference between reality and TV or video games, or what is OK for grown ups is not always OK for kids.)"

    i just dont see how a 3 year old or a 6 year old knows when a boob pops out or why they are dancing that way.

    to each his own.

    i am just tired of the fcc clamping down on everything we enjoy, not just porn.
    howard stern and other jocks cannot do proper interviews, songs get censored, tv stations are scared to show saving private ryan!!!!
    it is just too much.

    parents need to be responsible for what their kids are watching and listening to, not the government.

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    Hey if the FCC keeps me from seeing Janet's nipple again, I'll be happy. That thing was "vain-y" and purple and nasty. LOL...just trying to lighten it up...

    This conversation comes up once in awhile...I think the right answer is some sort of happy common ground. We all delight in the liberties if living in a free country, but also want the government to keep lude behavior from beaming out to TV's across America.

    I think it breaks down like this...

    We as parents are about 80% responsible for what we let our kids watch.
    The government should have about a 5% say in it...
    and lastly the media should shut the hell up and stop making a big deal about everything...no wonder the rest of the world thinks we're nuts when it comes to sex and nudity...that ought to take care of that other 5%.
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