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    If this is in the wrong forum I apologize. I need help. I am taking a class this month called "A history of Rock and Roll" At first, we were not going to cover Van Halen, then after much debate with the professor, we are going to cover Van Halen, but I have to teach the class. I plan to focus on how Eddie redefined the way the guitar was played. If there is something else I need to cover, do let me know through this forum, or a PM. I don't want to leave anything out about our favorite band. Thanks alot for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxman_28712
    If this is in the wrong forum I apologize. I need help. I am taking a class this month called "A history of Rock and Roll" At first, we were not going to cover Van Halen, then after much debate with the professor, we are going to cover Van Halen, but I have to teach the class. I plan to focus on how Eddie redefined the way the guitar was played. If there is something else I need to cover, do let me know through this forum, or a PM. I don't want to leave anything out about our favorite band. Thanks alot for your help.
    If it's a true history course, than Eddie's playing (while paramount) is just the tip of the iceberg. Halen's story is one of musical evolution and, ultimately, rebirth. It's also not done being told yet.

    The discovery by Gene Simmons, the heart-breaking split with Dave in '84, the new phase of 5150, the short lived experiment with Gary, Eddie's bout with cancer......

    Van Halen's world is in a constant state of flux, much like rock and roll itself. I'm sure you'll get LOTS of help on this one. Just remember that the band had encompassed the lives of six musicians, not just four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum
    Just remember that the band had encompassed the lives of six musicians, not just four.
    don't forget millions of fans...I even think the SH vs DLR arguments are worth mentioning. The passion of true VH fans goes far beyond the music. A mention of The Links and The Army might even be appropriate to show how much this band means to RnR.
    "I write and play music for a living, I'm not a businessman. It seems like all attorneys ever do is stir up trouble. They create problems that never existed and ream you for half your money, then they try to fix what they started and nail ya for whatever money you got left. I'll tell ya, man, I don't see how these guys sleep at night." --Edward Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH-is-Alive
    don't forget millions of fans...I even think the SH vs DLR arguments are worth mentioning. The passion of true VH fans goes far beyond the music. A mention of The Links and The Army might even be appropriate to show how much this band means to RnR.
    Actually I think it would do us all a disservice and make us sound like a bunch of petty, bickering fucks. But hey.....it's not my class to teach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum
    Actually I think it would do us all a disservice and make us sound like a bunch of petty, bickering fucks. But hey.....it's not my class to teach.
    Nah, I think it'd be worth mentioning that thousands of people are so passionate about the band that they visit Internet forums every day to discuss what was, is, and will be with the band. But then again, you could probably say the same thing about people who sell Longaberger baskets...
    "I write and play music for a living, I'm not a businessman. It seems like all attorneys ever do is stir up trouble. They create problems that never existed and ream you for half your money, then they try to fix what they started and nail ya for whatever money you got left. I'll tell ya, man, I don't see how these guys sleep at night." --Edward Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH-is-Alive
    Nah, I think it'd be worth mentioning that thousands of people are so passionate about the band that they visit Internet forums every day to discuss what was, is, and will be with the band. But then again, you could probably say the same thing about people who sell Longaberger baskets...
    I probably would if I knew what the fuck Longaberger baskets were.

    Don't tell me.....chances are I won't give a shit since I'm buzzing on Smirnoff tonight!

    Good luck with your presentation. Don't forget to mention Eddie's "fuckin hip".
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxman_28712
    I have to teach the class. I plan to focus on how Eddie redefined the way the guitar was played.
    i think a good way to attack it would be to come up with 10-20 sound clips of VH tunes that define van halen to you. Then approach it like if you make a couple of fans out of this class then you've delivered. Then with the song clips just point out the techniques eddies using. oh ya, and show the hot for teacher video.

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    I think it would be worth covering how DLR "re-invented" or at least re-defined the lead singer/frontman role back in the late 70's. He was the first singer to actually bring a kind of gymnastic or athletic feel to the frontman role. Think about it, you had alot of singers kind of posing and throwing shapes, a la Robert Plant and Tyler. You had your plodding, hand clapping "lets get crazy" guys like Ozzy etc. Guys like Paul Stanley were doing moves and some kicks with their guitars. But you never really had a guy that was doing the splits, kicking his leg up over his head, jumping 10 feet in the air off of the risers, etc.

    He also re-defined the fashion (for better or worse looking back) at the time, which was copied by numerous frontmen throughout the 80's. Now some say Jim Dandy of Black Oak pioneered some of this stuff..but lets face it..that was to a very limited audience and DLR took it to the masses.

    Also, DLR was one of the first frontmen to recognize the audience by doing his schtick of stepping back with awe as the audience grew louder and louder and pointing to Eddie like, "Hey, listen to THIS!". Very cool stuff back then.

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    I appreciate the input, alot of good points. We will get to Van Halen on Tuesday. There is no class since Monday is MLK day. Anything else that you all feel should be covered, please do let me know.

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    Take your boom box and treat 'em to the Mean Street intro!!!
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    - I think they set records from FW thru 1984 for largest stageshow (tons, wattage, size etc.). Pioneers in arena rock excess.
    - First band to get more than a million $$$ for 1 show - US Fest.
    - Most #1 rock hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowLifeFlatHeadScum
    Don't forget to mention Eddie's "fuckin hip".



    Hey, man... it's not about his fuckin' hip. It's about me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellohawk
    - Most #1 rock hits.

    Yep! Although important to mention "Most number ones on the Billboard Mainstream Rock charts," just so that people don't assume it's on the pop charts (and they will...).
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    Oh....don't forget to cover "the Brown sound" a little.

    http://mr5150.vhvault.com/evh-brown-sound.html
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