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    CANTON, Ohio (AP) -- Quarterbacks Dan Marino and Steve Young and wide receiver Michael Irvin were among 15 finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced Tuesday.

    Marino, who holds many of the NFL's career passing records, and Young, who led San Francisco to the 1994 NFL title, were among four finalists who made the list in their first year of eligibility.

    The others were Irvin, a member of the Dallas teams that won three Super Bowls between 1992 and 1995, and the late Derrick Thomas, who played for Kansas City and died in 2000 of injuries suffered in an auto accident.

    Two of the finalists had already been determined -- senior nominees Fritz Pollard and Benny Friedman.

    Pollard, who played in the 1920s, also was the first black to coach an NFL team. Friedman played for several teams between 1927 and 1934.

    The other nominees were linebacker Harry Carson, who played for the New York Giants in the 1970s and 1980s and was a member of the 1986 NFL champions; defensive end Richard Dent, the MVP for the Chicago Bears in the Super Bowl following the 1985 season; defensive end L.C. Greenwood, a member of Pittsburgh's ``Steel Curtain'' teams of the 1970s; guard Russ Grimm, a member of Washington's famed ``Hogs,'' defensive end Claude Humphrey, who played for Washington and Philadelphia between 1968-81; guard Bob Kuechenberg, who played on Miami's 1972 undefeated champions, wide receiver Art Monk, a member of three Super Bowl winners with Washington; Roger Wehrli, a cornerback for the St. Louis Cardinals from 1969-82; and the late George Young, who built two Super Bowl winners as general manager of the Giants.

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    How many can go in? Is there a limit? I like a lot of those guys...

    Marino I'd say should be unanimous, he's a first ballot no-brainer. I don't know about Young - I think so, but I don't have his career numbers in front of me. I know he got hung up on some bad teams, the USFL, and behind Montana for a good chunk of his career, did he stand out for long enough to be Hall worthy?

    I like Carson, Kuechenburg, Grimm, Monk, Dent and Greenwood too. But frankly I just don't know enough details about them each and how they compare to those in the Hall.

    Irvin? I dunno - I'd also need to see how his numbers stack up. I always thought he was more hype than substance, but maybe not. I never did like him very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IED
    Irvin? I dunno - I'd also need to see how his numbers stack up. I always thought he was more hype than substance, but maybe not. I never did like him very much.
    750 REC, 11904 YDS, 15.9 YPC, 65 TD

    I'd say that's HOF worthy, especially considering when he played. It wasn't exactly an "offensive era."
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    I think Marino is a shoo-in, and Derrick Thomas should be as well. Irvin and Young will go, but maybe not this year. Russ Grimm should be in, and I can't believe Art Monk isn't already. Carson and Greenwood.....tough to say. Greenwood has the benefit of being part of one the league's all-time great defenses. Carson won a Super Bowl, but there are so many big names and that's probably to his detriment. And I'd like to think the league's first black head coach would go. Hell, let 'em all in, and make Irvin pay for the beer.

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    I just saw on ESPNEWS that there is 3-6 player limit.

    I think Marino, Young and Thomas are shoo-ins, and maybe Irvin too, even though i never liked the guy. Everyone else, is before my time, i dunno much about any of them.

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    Irvin is a shoo-in, and so is Marino and Young. No question.
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    Marino is an absolute shoo-in. He's only the best quarterback to play the game-please, don't start the whole "Well how many superbowls did he win". If that is the criteria for greatness, then Mark Rypen, Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, Jim McMahon, and Brad Johnson are better than Marino (if my smilies were fixed, I'd insert the eyes rolling one here). As I've said to the morons I work with, superbowls go to very good TEAMS. Marino was a great player on several Dolphin teams surrounded by average talent. He never had a 1000 yard rusher or played with an Hall of Fame wide out or had an outstanding defense, except for towards the end of his career maybe. Irvin is hard for me b/c I can't stand the guy. I'm not sold on Young. Grim I think should be in, as well as Thomas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVH FANATIC
    ...defensive end Claude Humphrey, who played for Washington and Philadelphia between 1968-81...
    Why do I recall Claude Humphrey as a Falcon?

    Michael Irvin can wait a few years. Maybe he can go have another party in Las Colinas. I'm sure the folks there would love to see him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wray
    750 REC, 11904 YDS, 15.9 YPC, 65 TD

    I'd say that's HOF worthy, especially considering when he played. It wasn't exactly an "offensive era."
    Great point, and also the fact that the NFC was so great defensively back then. Particularly the NFC East with the Eagles, Giants, and Skins. He deserves to get in for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wray
    750 REC, 11904 YDS, 15.9 YPC, 65 TD

    I'd say that's HOF worthy, especially considering when he played. It wasn't exactly an "offensive era."

    Those are stats cut short due to injury. I wish he could have played longer. Sterling Sharpe too.

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    I hope the "INTIMIDATOR" Michael Irvin makes it.Since it's obvious Marino and Young will go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csm5150
    Marino is an absolute shoo-in. He's only the best quarterback to play the game-please, don't start the whole "Well how many superbowls did he win". If that is the criteria for greatness, then Mark Rypen, Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, Jim McMahon, and Brad Johnson are better than Marino (if my smilies were fixed, I'd insert the eyes rolling one here). As I've said to the morons I work with, superbowls go to very good TEAMS. Marino was a great player on several Dolphin teams surrounded by average talent. He never had a 1000 yard rusher or played with an Hall of Fame wide out or had an outstanding defense, except for towards the end of his career maybe. Irvin is hard for me b/c I can't stand the guy. I'm not sold on Young. Grim I think should be in, as well as Thomas.
    I totally respect your opinion. Marino was a damn good quarterback and will be elected to the HOF in his first year of eligibility.

    But, Joe Montana is the greatest QB in NFL history in my opinion. I don't believe in taking away from a QB's accomplishments just because they played on a talented team. Wins and losses is what people remember. The 49ers were as good as they were for a long time because of Montana. Not the other way around.

    How many QB's would have brought SF to victory in that SB vs. CIN in '89? Certainly not Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, Dilfer etc...

    Those QB's were a part of very good teams that won SB's. Notice how they never won a second SB. I really respect the QB's that won multiple Super Bowls. Now, those guys are special.

    Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVH FANATIC
    Those QB's were a part of very good teams that won SB's. Notice how they never won a second SB. I really respect the QB's that won multiple Super Bowls. Now, those guys are special.

    Montana, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway.
    Brady...

    How do Irvin's numbers compare with Monk's? I'm surprised Monk isn't in there.

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    Art Monk:
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    750 REC, 11904 YDS, 15.9 YPC, 65 TD
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