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    Sorry if this is a repeat in this forum, but I read this today for the first time and I wanted to share it if you guys had not seen it. Although there is nothing new stated here, they both did short interviews (Brett, go ahead and remove if this is a repeat):,14...-63580,00.html

    Saturday, June 22, 2002

    Time Share Tour
    Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth are touring together, without Van Halen. "Together" being a relative term.

    By GEOFF BOUCHER, Times Staff Writer

    ST. LOUIS--You can tell a lot about a rock star by the way he serves drinks to his fans, and that is especially true of rock's strange bedfellows of the moment, David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar. The rival voices of Van Halen are touring as an uneasy alliance, and their approaches to music and life are as different as a high-priced strip club and a beach bar where the regulars get a free shot.

    Roth's set is a fast, tight race through the Van Halen hits, presented with his gyrating martial arts kicks and raunchy films looping on a rear screen.

    Sweating, bare-chested and wearing skin-tight cerulean pants, Roth is a rock star always at a distance from the fans--except when he feigns masturbation with a bottle of Jack Daniel's and empties the whiskey on two shocked young men in the front row. Shivering, the pair appear uncertain whether they have been christened or humiliated.

    The booze in Hagar's set, on the other hand, is served with a smile. Two bleachers at the rear of the stage are filled with fans who are served margaritas throughout the show. Hagar performs barefoot, chats betweens songs and projects a "man of the people" ethos. While Roth leaves the stage nearly naked, Hagar trudges off weighted down with clothes tossed by fans--a ball cap, a hockey jersey, beads and an American flag that he wraps around himself like a sarong.

    The mercurial Roth chuckles at the idea of the tour as a tale of two bars, and offers another thought: "If you want to split a bottle with a friend, then Sammy is your guy. But if you want to split your friend with a bottle, then call me."

    No one would be surprised if this tour also ends in broken glass and bruises, but so far at the UMB Bank Pavilion outside St. Louis, it's been only a mildly grumpy affair, with no injuries.

    The Roth-Hagar tour, which begins a Southern California stint tonight at the Glen Helen Blockbuster Pavilion, seems a match made in purgatory. The two have little in common, either personally or musically, other than a grudge against their former bandmate, Eddie Van Halen, for exiling them from the group. For the guitarist, whose band is now in limbo, the Roth-Hagar teaming must be as endearing as an ex-wives club.

    "Those guys are sitting there without a record deal and Dave and I out on tour," Hagar says. "It's crazy. Ridiculous."

    Roth offers a different description: "The way I make decisions is based on what makes good drinking stories. This is compelling, not competitive. There's no real rivalry here."

    Rivalry or not, the two can seem like bickering castaways sharing a career raft, each hoping against hope that the good ship Van Halen returns to pick him up.

    "Where the hell is Dave?" The usually personable Hagar, guitar in hand, is fuming and prowling the backstage corridors in search of Roth.

    Hagar wants to do a joint interview and photo session for The Times, but after a long delay, word comes back that the Roth won't emerge from his tour bus. Hagar groans, offers a few choice descriptions of Roth's personality, then shrugs and plops down on a couch. "Ah, who needs him?"

    At the moment, Hagar and Roth do appear to need each other, if either wants a spotlight remotely as intense as that of their Van Halen days.

    The pair have received the most press attention either has enjoyed in years, and the tour has been a strong seller. Reviewers have been generally kind, and their critiques have steadily grown more favorable as the tour has picked up some polish.

    Each singer does a 90-minute set with his own band, alternating the closing spot each night. Don't expect these disparate performers to perform a duet tonight or at their Monday and Tuesday visits to the Universal Amphitheatre: They have yet to appear on stage together at any show, they travel separately, and if the St. Louis stop is any indication, they never set sight on each other backstage.

    Hagar estimates that he has been in the same room with Roth only four or five times ever, just a few hours' worth of shared time for singers whose names and fortunes have been linked for years.

    Roth's history with Van Halen began in 1973 when he auditioned for a young Pasadena band called Mammoth that featured brothers Eddie and Alex Van Halen on guitar and drums, respectively. Bassist Michael Anthony joined a year later and by the end of the decade Van Halen was a monster success. Eddie's guitar style changed the template of heavy metal for a generation; Roth's playful raunch and jungle cat athleticism made him an ideal frontman; and singles such as "Runnin' With the Devil," "And the Cradle Will Rock ... " and the No. 1 hit "Jump" became defining songs.

    By the mid-1980s, though, the band's relationship soured and Roth was out, replaced by Hagar, an arena-rock veteran as a solo performer and with the band Montrose. Many doubted the move, but the first Hagar-era release, "5150," was a hugely successful album, and the music moved to a new place. The Roth lyrical irony was replaced with heartfelt Hagar in singles such as "Dreams," "Why Can't This Be Love" and "Right Now," and the Van Halen fans stayed on while Roth's solo career floundered.

    "I think that really hurt Dave," Hagar says. "It made him angry. It made him dislike me. When his career wasn't doing so good--and I'm not dissing him here, that's a fact--and, well, if I was him I would have been the same way. If Gary Cherone came in and sold 7 million copies with his first Van Halen album, yeah, I would have been mad, too."

    Roth did rejoin Van Halen in 1996, but it was a disaster, culminating in Hagar's departure (whether he was fired or quit depends on who you ask) and Roth's second exit from the band.

    Cherone was the singer who replaced Hagar, but only long enough to record one album, 1998's "Van Halen III," by far the worst seller of the band's 13 releases. Cherone was canned and the Van Halen brand name has been on hold ever since. Eddie Van Halen had a bout with cancer but has now been given a clean bill of health, and the band split with its longtime label, Warner Bros., last year.

    Hagar and Roth both have sought to get Van Halen back on the road, but other than Anthony pitching in as an infrequent guest on this tour (he is expected to play the Southern California shows), the reunion looks no closer to reality. "I don't know what's going on with them," Hagar says. "I don't know if they have the heart for it anymore."

    At 54, Hagar is fit and affable, and exudes the self-contained satisfaction of a longtime surfer on his board at sunrise. His father was a steelworker and onetime boxer, and the blue-collar roots show in both Hagar's work ethic and his carousing. He is an admitted sentimentalist and says he's changed little since the days before he became a rock star who owns a jet, a tequila company and a bar in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico.

    "I'm the same guy. I still want the same things out of my life. I haven't changed, and most people do change. And I'm kind of proud of it."

    If Hagar is a man of constants and obvious compass points, Roth is slippery and ironic, a Cheshire cat in spandex. An intense martial arts maven, the 47-year-old singer walks with an athletic gait, shoulders back and elbows out, like a gunslinger ready to draw. The familiar mane of bleached blond hair has a balding spot now, but sitting on his bus after his St. Louis show, it's covered by a cap.

    After hours of stalling, Roth has agreed to be interviewed at the precise moment that Hagar steps on stage for his set--perhaps suggesting that Roth is less than candid about the lack of rivalry here. In conversation, Roth is tangential, bristling with odd references and one-liners. When asked if he is having a good time on tour he answers, "In many cases it's like I imagine sailing would be or someone in military or an extreme academic.... Art is struggle. I love the struggle more than ever before. It's about dangerous waves of consequence. If there's no conflict I seem to create it, doc. Once something is stabilized, go bigger. We aren't innocents but we are abroad."

    Roth does not want to excavate his Van Halen past during the brief interview. But the singer does say he believes there is something "very wrong" in the hearts and heads of the Van Halen brothers. "I just know that they're not competing. I'm competing. I'm out here."

    Eddie Van Halen could not be reached for comment, but he has said in recent months that he has a vast storehouse of new material in various stages of completion. Scotty Ross, the band's tour manager, says he has spent four years waiting for the brothers. "I talk to them all the time; they're doing good," Ross says. "They just can't figure out what they're doing. They just can't decide what to do next."

    Could their next incarnation include Roth or Hagar? "Never say never," Ross says.

    At the show here, Don Pruitt, a longtime friend of Hagar follows him around with a tape recorder. The two have been working on the singer's autobiography off and on through the years, and this night, it turns out, will be the final anecdote in the book. At least that's the plan for the moment.

    "I hope there will be another chapter," Hagar says. "Someday the whole thing will come together, or otherwise it doesn't make any sense. The whole thing is Eddie, Alex, Michael, Sammy and Dave, all of us, together. That's all I want. I don't want to be in Van Halen. I don't even really want to be on tour with Dave. It's just the second-best thing. It's the choice I got. But the real thing would be all of us to do it. One time for the big time."

    [ July 08, 2002, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: tripoutski ]

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    Well, if it got posted somewhere else, I don't remember seeing it. And being the tour thread, it fits right in. (Tell your wife I said you did something right, bro. [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

    One thing I find interesting in the article is them referring to Scotty Ross as tour manager for VH. WTF??? [img]graemlins/wtf.gif[/img] Surely that was an oversight. [img]graemlins/drunk.gif[/img]

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    Thanks for posting the article, it was good reading.

    Could the next incarnation of VH include Roth and/or Hagar? Personally, I think Eddie and Alex are 'scared'. They got a big dose of reality with VHIII that they don't want to look that bad again. Of course being silent to the media and fans aren't helping their image.
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    Thanx for sharing. For once, a decent interview piece not brutally shaded by a moron writer.

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    Thanx, Trip.

    That was a nice read! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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    Grazie, Trip.

    Always love a good article about my favorite soap!!

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